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For Listeria victims, sudden turns for the worse
AP via Yahoo ^ | October 1, 2011 | Dan Elliott

Posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety

DENVER (AP) — Charles Palmer is a hardy 71-year-old former Marine and Vietnam veteran who trains cockatiels to say "Semper Fi" and "Whatcha doin', man?" He also loves fruit — and especially melon for lunch. "He's never one to get sick," said his wife, Tammie. The Colorado Springs man ate a cantaloupe that was purchased in mid-August, his wife said. Within several days, he was overcome by an excruciating headache. The next morning he was extremely weak and gripped by dry heaves, his wife recalled. "I started slapping his face and saying, 'You've got to talk to me,' but he couldn't," she said. She called 911. At the hospital, she said, he was diagnosed with the strain of Listeria blamed for a 19-state outbreak that has killed at least 15 and sickened at least 84.

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Story goes on to tell more of the same. It is disheartening and even terrifying to read. But it fails to mention this one major thing: The melon was from an organic farm.

I notch it up to part of the media complicit great green cover up. Environmentalism kills and the liberal news mediums will not report it.

Seems like all of the recent deadly food borne illnesses have originated from organically grown food.

Don't read if you dislike rants... Sign me up for more DNA altered, pasteurized, irradiated, bleached, cleaned, refined, precooked, preservative filled foods. Make sure it is grown on land fertilized with man made chemical compounds straight from a factory and not from an animal's A$$. I will take my beef full of hormones and antibiotics, medium rare and full of fat. Grill it over very high heat just to make sure it has the proper amount of carcinogens

1 posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:49 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I love my non-organic farming....all research indicates it is healthier, had more vitamins, and the food stays fresher longer.


2 posted on 10/01/2011 10:44:01 PM PDT by dila813
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To: FreedomNotSafety
The problem is fecal splashing from field hands. And folks not washing their fruit in 50ppm chlorine solution before they cut it.

Why field hands have diarrhea, and not have sanitary facilities is another policy problem.

But organic or non-organic has nothing to do with folks dying because of fecal splashing.

/johnny

3 posted on 10/01/2011 10:45:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I’m wondering if it’s because of wild hogs. They’ve been a problem getting into farmlands. They carry a ton of diseases.


4 posted on 10/01/2011 10:47:29 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Listeria is a frequent pestilence of things like processed meat. Modern science came up with the neat idea of using phages, which are viruses that infect and kill only Listeria bacteria. Spray phages on the Listeria-prone food and voila, no more Listeria. And also something that organic food processors would eschew as artificial.

By the way who cut up the melon? The guy who was afflicted? His wife? A food store? It would be easy to get Listeria from contaminated meat onto the melon by an insufficiently cleaned knife or cutting surface, or other accidental contact.


5 posted on 10/01/2011 10:48:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Everything I can find thus far says the ‘processing’ area and the ‘processed’ melons tested positive for Listeria. It would not matter if the farm was ‘organic’ or ‘inorganic’, if the processing facility was filthy there would still be contamination.


6 posted on 10/01/2011 10:50:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The fecal matter is not just from the field hands and is usually from animal feces besides that, washing in a chlorine solution is not organic. In fact the green weenies wish to see the use of chlorine banned.


7 posted on 10/01/2011 10:52:21 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
In every case I've followed... And I did food safety as a career for a while.... It was fecal splashing from humans. Illegal field hands, always.

/johnny

8 posted on 10/01/2011 10:54:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: FreedomNotSafety; dila813; JRandomFreeper; dragonblustar

I don’t think this has beans to do with organic farming. You can bet your sweet booty this will remain forever officially a mystery if indications point to infected illegal alien field hands pooping in the fields.

There’s also the possibility of someone using municipal sludge as fertilizer or irrigating with contaminated water.

Either way, I very much doubt the cause was some freak of nature.


9 posted on 10/01/2011 10:56:20 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: JRandomFreeper

Always you say? Well, well.

Just more of the price of cheap labor...


10 posted on 10/01/2011 10:57:29 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: JRandomFreeper

50 ppm of sodium hypochlorite would be 2 tablespoons of laundry bleach per gallon of water.

I often wash produce with a dab of dish soap, just enough to suds a little then rinsed till suds are gone. The soap emulsifies oil based contaminants and allows them to be flushed off the surface with water. Bleach might not be able to touch anything that is in an oil based medium, but bleaching after washing is probably overkill.


11 posted on 10/01/2011 10:58:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Just mythoughts

At an “inorganic farm” of “melon factory” the melons would have been spayed to remove and kill contaminants reducing the chance of this happening. The “organic” farm is far more likely to not use unnatural cleaners and use “natural” fertilizers. They even allow their animals to free range into the melon patch.


12 posted on 10/01/2011 10:58:24 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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I garden organically by YHVH’s standards. His dirt, His rain & my sweat & toil to keep the weeds out & I get bumper crops every season. If YHVH had intended for food to grow in pig feces, he would have written it in His book of instructions. We haul organic produce & I wouldn't feed it to my dog because the disease that is contained in that feces can never be washed off even using the harshest of soaps & our bodies were not made to accept it or process these organisms so they can pass out of us. At some point, with enough consumption, it will eventually kill you. It is a proven scientific fact.
13 posted on 10/01/2011 10:59:44 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: sinanju
I do hate that those illegal alien field hands have explosive diarrhea and are a) here illegally, b) sick, and not treated, and c) working in horrible conditions where they don't have any sanitary facilities.

It would be best if they weren't here.

And if they are here, it should be via a lawful route, and they should have the same protections as American workers.

/johnny

14 posted on 10/01/2011 11:00:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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"because of fecal splashing"

Vegetarians show us the horrors of what goes on in chicken coops, slaughterhouses, and pig farms hoping that we will stop eating meat.

This news of yours puts me right off vegetables for good.

15 posted on 10/01/2011 11:01:08 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Nature is perfectly capable of dealing with weak solutions of bleach, which decomposes into common salt.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 11:01:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: patlin

Well, Jesus did speak of the sickly tree, where the owner told the gardeners to “put manure” and see if it perked up, before condemning the tree for not fruiting. To be fair, to manure at the base of a tree would be unlikely to result in contamination of the fruit well above it.


17 posted on 10/01/2011 11:03:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
50 ppm is what I used to wash fresh veg when I ran kitchens.

Generally, my clientel were young, strong males, but I did the same in civilian establishments.

Can't have a military all bent over with stomach cramps.

And you can't wash lettuce.

/johnny

18 posted on 10/01/2011 11:04:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: dila813

“I love my non-organic farming....all research indicates it is healthier, had more vitamins, and the food stays fresher longer.”

plus you know it’s not grown in poop


19 posted on 10/01/2011 11:05:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In every case I’ve followed... And I did food safety as a career for a while.... It was fecal splashing from humans. Illegal field hands, always.

Try reading this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/8/dead-bodies-demand-organic-food-moratorium/?page=all

Excerpt: “ Those who cling to the 1850s feces-based agricultural technology should face the same hurdles. As should those who reject key safety advances such as the E. coli-killing practice of irradiating suspect foods and genetic engineering, which holds promise in using natural biological proc-esses to limit the spread of food-borne illness.”


20 posted on 10/01/2011 11:05:26 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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