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1 posted on 09/28/2011 7:33:34 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

yep.


2 posted on 09/28/2011 7:36:20 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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Well, actually it’s about where the student resides physically. If you live in Virginia for a certain period, you pay in-state tuition in Va.


3 posted on 09/28/2011 7:36:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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What I’m finding is that most Perry supporters here on FR are also amnesty supporters.


4 posted on 09/28/2011 7:39:07 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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Does anybody really think a school will follow up on the dream act student seeking citizenship and if not what will do about it, nothing.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 7:41:27 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Pullquote that deserves emphasis:

"Arguing for in-state tuition for illegal aliens without making plain that the real objective is legal status is incomplete at best, dishonest at worst. "

8 posted on 09/28/2011 7:43:28 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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Now, maybe there’s an argument to be made for legalizing certain illegal aliens brought here at a very young age whose identities were formed here and who know no other country.

The same argument can be made that if an ILLEGAL alien robbed a bank and he and his family lived a lavish lifestyle with his ill-gotten gains it would be wrong to take his assets from him because, after all, the only home his kids have known is the one the robber paid for with stolen loot.

ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL.

9 posted on 09/28/2011 7:44:17 AM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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“they’re still illegal aliens and so it’s illegal to hire them.”

Maybe that is why Texas colleges have students that have taken advantage of the reduced in-state rates to the tune of 1% of total enrollment?

Sounds like the illegals are stampeding the border to pay $40,000 to $80,000 for this government hand out.


11 posted on 09/28/2011 7:56:46 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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The debate should have been held 10 years ago and it should have included the other 9 states that have the same law.

We have massive unemployment, we need jobs, we need business regulation reform, we need to stop the EPA and suddenly it's "Oh look! A shiny object" and everyone goes off chasing a 10 year old law.

12 posted on 09/28/2011 8:03:28 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
America: A Nation Of Laws

America: A Nation Of Scofflaws

Federal Law Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623 states:

“an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State... for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit.”


15 posted on 09/28/2011 8:08:50 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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It is clear to anyone paying attention that subsidized tuition for illegal aliens, given the premise that educated people are more able to contribute to this society, leads to a glaring logical contradiction precisely because of their illegal status, which of course can only be remedied by removing that pesky little condition. Subsidized education of illegals was thus engineered explicitly as a stepping stone to amnesty from the get-go. It's nothing but a big setup.
19 posted on 09/28/2011 8:15:33 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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Texas has tougher restrictions on in-state illegal aliens than 38 other states. Only 4 states deny in-state tuition; 8, like Texas, actually have some guidelines.

I guess I don’t understand the furor over Texas having tougher limits on in-state tuition for illegals than 38 other states in the union.

Then again, I understand little about FR these days.


23 posted on 09/28/2011 8:24:45 AM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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Legalized certain illegal aliens brought here before their 16th birthday.
Progressives killing America one law at a time.


27 posted on 09/28/2011 8:27:23 AM PDT by Vaduz
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Propose a law that says illegals are free to work in this country but only if the employer pays something like a 30% surcharge on every illegal salary that goes directly to the states. We’ll see if businesses really need to get the work done that Americans don’t want to do, or whether they just want to get the work done that Americans won’t do for low wages.


28 posted on 09/28/2011 8:27:25 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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Its also about fairness. Kids who’s parents are here legally, pay tuition based on their parents actions - if the parents are modestly successful, the kids pay more for school since they don’t qualify for grants.

Perry wants to say kids of illegals shouldn’t be held to the same standard of their parents actions - in fact he outright says parents actions should not affect the cost of higher education.

That’s not how the system works for kids here legally.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 8:32:12 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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31 posted on 09/28/2011 8:32:52 AM PDT by HiJinx ("Good government is the concern of all men." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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Rick Perry necessarily had to whore himself out to a race to win Texas. America is bigger than a race, throwing his fellow non-Hispanic citizenry under the bus to pander to a race is not going to fly for a presidential position. I view his picture under the La Raza banner as being equivalent to posing under a KKK banner.

Rick Perry’s problem is the fact that 81 percent of the jobs created since 2007 in Texas have gone to immigrants who arrived here since 2007. Ninety-three percent of these immigrants aren’t citizens and an estimated 50 percent are illegal aliens while the percentage of Americans in Texas holding jobs fell from 71 percent in 2007 to 67 percent in 2011.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/perry_border_baloney_CyP3CK8Nao2t8IZdjU6y3K

Rick Perry is against E-Verify, a simple phone call that reserves the jobs for Americans and LEGAL aliens.
“E-Verify wouldn’t amount to a hill of beans for Texas”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJs5Rw-v18E

Rick Perry is forcing Americans to pay for the continued education of foreigners that most Americans don’t even want in our country.


35 posted on 09/28/2011 8:40:19 AM PDT by Haddit
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Here’s a thought. Require the students to start the citizenship process, and start taking the required classes for it, if they want to get the in-state tuition rates. If they’ve been here all their lives, and have no connection to their parents’ ‘home country’, this is, for all intents and purposes THEIR country, and they should become citizens. It wasn’t THEY who broke the law, but their parents; they had no choice in the matter. So get them going on their own citizenship, and then they can sponsor their parents. If they can get a college education, it’s more likely that they will work hard bring their whole family out of poverty into a better life.


72 posted on 09/28/2011 3:23:19 PM PDT by SuziQ
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