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Navarrette: Harsh immigration rhetoric not helpful to GOP hopefuls
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/navarrette-harsh-immigration-rhetoric-not-helpful-to-gop-1877455.html ^ | September 24, 2011 | Ruben Navarrette Jr

Posted on 09/25/2011 6:29:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek

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To: livius
I assume you know there's already a visa program to allow temporary workers into the US? Not to mention visas for students.

The 9/11 terrorists were here on various visas, and some had overstayed their visas. The illegal immigration problem will not be solved until we secure our borders (which to me includes keeping up with/deporting those who overstay their visas). That's where Reagan messed up....he trusted the Democrats to secure the borders AFTER amnesty was granted. We don't need to make that mistake again.

21 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:49 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (http://www.honorflight.org/)
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To: wolfcreek

Latino? She means Mexican.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 7:54:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: wolfcreek

As long as Republicans let the left define the terms of the debate, they will lose.

Does one single Republican have the brains and the balls to say the truth? That this is NOT about immigration. This is about illegal aliens. Immigration is legal entry into the US.

Nah, Republicans can’t win the debate because they are timid and stupid.


23 posted on 09/25/2011 8:02:41 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Mike Darancette
Foreign nationals can’t vote.

Well they aren't supposed to anyway.

In Michigan our secretary of state is trying to purge dead, illegals and other unlawful voters from the voter rolls. She has access to inmate, parolee and probationer records so those can be removed but neither the social security administration or INS will help, claiming "privacy issures".

Frankly I'm calling the "privacy issues" excuse a bunch of crap. The states should have access to those records as a means of insuring the integrity of the vote as well as any number of other valid reasons.
24 posted on 09/25/2011 8:10:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: wolfcreek
The trouble is that most Republicans don't know how to make a good pitch. They don't even see the mistakes they're making. For them, the immigration issue is about right and wrong.

Well, DUH, you clueless racist.

That is the essence of the problem - it IS about right and wrong, legal and illegal. Please, Reuben, you moron, tell us what other laws Latinos should be exempted from.

The Republicans went from a Latino appeaser who got 40% of the Latino vote (Bush 2004) to an all-out extreme Latino appeaser who got only 29% of that vote (McCain 2008). How does Reuben square this math?

The track record seems to be that the more you appease the Latinos and the closer you get to amnesty and open borders, the LESS of their vote you will get.

In actuality, that decline in Latino votes for the Republican candidate only amounted to 800,000 voters, many of them in already Republican lost causes like California.

On the other hand, McCain lost many more votes, many more campaign volunteers, and many more small donors because of his pro-illegal immigration stand.

Every poll taken on the subject shows that 65-80% of Americans want illegal immigration stopped and illegal aliens not be rewarded with benefits, amnesty, or citizenship.

That vast majority is what the Republicans should be pandering to, not an inconsequential 800,000 votes in already lost blue states.

25 posted on 09/25/2011 8:12:19 AM PDT by oldbill
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Wonder why? (smurfle)

26 posted on 09/25/2011 8:14:42 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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“Navarrette: Harsh immigration rhetoric not helpful to GOP hopefuls”

I’m still waiting for some harsh immigration behavior!

Might be helpful for the whole country.


27 posted on 09/25/2011 8:43:31 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: wolfcreek
Perfect example. You failed to differentiate between actual citizens and illegals.

No failure about it. The pols are talking to hispanics - they don't care if they are illegal or not.

Pandering to citizens of one stripe is just as bad as pandering to illegals.

28 posted on 09/25/2011 8:55:59 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: MNnice

In general, the latinos will never vote Republican.

They are just making us feel guilty that we need to break open the borders. Has anyone ever ask why we have a 10% “reported” unemployment rate and a 21% u-6 underemployment rate...how about the 12 million AMERICANS who have no jobs?


29 posted on 09/25/2011 11:12:03 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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