Posted on 09/23/2011 8:05:57 AM PDT by Maelstorm
And I think we have a winner...
“and you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”
“knowing” meaning “defining for yourselves”.
There is no support for open homosexuality in uniform. Never has been. I don’t know where you got that idea from. I know that the GOP once they have the House, the Senate, and the Presidency will indeed reinstitute something that will be even stronger and more definitive than DADT.
probably from this poll http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-6198284-503544.html
Yep but that poll is bogus though it did point out that when asked if people believe homosexuals should serve openly in the military only 44% support allowing them to serve ‘openly’. It’s all about the how the question is asked. And if you polled “Do you believe that homosexuals should be able to promote Gay Pride during service while in Uniform?” I guarantee the poll would be overwhelming against.
The same if you asked “Do you believe homosexuals should be actively recruited for military service at gay pride events?”
The only thing that people support and its largely because of ignorence and a conservative media deriliction of duty is that a person who is gay serving in the military in the same capacity as any other normal heterosexual person. They most certainly don’t the gay pride movement or what is gay activists would call ‘open homosexuality’ in the military.
This issue is easy to turn around and should go hand and hand with the marriage issue because the military is a cultural bastain that has been resistent to the conquest of the left and the repeal of DADT just gives the left one more tool to whittle away at another institution that happens to favor conservatism. The key is not to focus on whether they should serve but on the conduct and making sure that military can not apply political correctness to religious/conservative soldiers who disagree.
The left think they have won here but they haven’t no more than they have with Hate crimes legistlation. If anything it has made it harder to convict in some cases because it forces more focus on the abiguities of intent and motivation rather on simply was someone assaulted or killed.
Not that I think these ideas are harmful just sometimes one loses by winning.
Mark my words post 2012 you will see stories about how DADT never really went away at all. Also there are higher ups in the military biding their time to clean out the leftist scum that have infested the command hierarchy and the failures in Afganistan will give them perfect excuses. ;-)
I know exactly why, Mr.B.
Homosexuality is the best way by which to attack the military and the churches. Demanding that we accept it goes against Christian and Orthodox Judaic principles and the written Word, and destroys the morale and cohesion of our soldiers and sailors. That’s two, down.
The third of our great traditions in this country is the family. They used “free” money and the education system to destroy those.
The homosexual agenda is NOT a legitimate cause. The left actually uses the homosexual agenda as well as pushes other immoral behaviors as “rights” in order to destroy our freedom. Ever read the list of communist goals? DJMacWoW has a link to a great documentary that explains how communism/leftists have influenced our country to its great detriment. DJ, if you get to it maybe you could post that link again.
If Turing had not picked up a youth for a casual sodomy encounter, he would not have been arrested and all the rest. IOW, if he had not succumbed to his temptation, he would not have gotten into trouble. The problem was not that homosexuality was considered wrong, the problem was that he gave in to his desires to have sex with a strange young man.
Well, some of us would think that being convicted and being fired from your job for a private “sodomy encounter” is rather harsh.
And I’m starting to wonder if the “Communist Goals” were not themselves semi-propaganda.
Turing had government clearance and proved he couldn't be trusted. The man that he picked up robbed his house. The wikileaks soldier is also homosexual. See a pattern?
And I’m starting to wonder if the “Communist Goals” were not themselves semi-propaganda.
They aren't. They are very real.
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within. - Joseph Stalin
"Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society." Antonio Gramsci - Marxist - teacher of Saul Alinsky
Debate on gays is writ large - 2 area churches use billboards for competing messages
Lynn Braun, chair of Central UMC's lead team said - "I think people have the right to express their faith the way they see fit,and I think it helps the community to know where churches stand."
So now you can interpret the Bible anyway that you want. The message is that it is no longer a book of absolutes. Both Stalin and Gramsci knew they had to destroy morality in order to destroy the Republic.
Sam Adams also knew that - "No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders."
And what about the chemical castration he was forced to undergo in preference to prison?
What pattern? There’s plenty of straight soldiers who have been Court Martial-ed, and plenty of gay soldiers who have served honorably under DADT.
At this point, the damage seems to be mostly self-inflicted. Is there evidence to show that Stalin/Gramsci weren’t just jumping in front of the parade?
Thanks, DJ. I had a long hard day of canning (actually several) and am barely human today...
MT, did you actually watch that video? I highly recommend it. It’s excellent in its historical view of exactly what is being discussed here - the malignant influence of leftist philosophy and belief systems. I’m pinging savagesusie beacuse she has done a lot of study in this field and if she has time, her comments are always very edifying and cogent.
(The only tiny disagreement I have with the documentary is that Communists have made war on every religion, depending on the country, save Islam. They’ve killed Buddhists (Tibet), Hindus (India), Jews (Europe - Nazi means “National Socialist”) as well as Christians.)
There have always been sodomy laws. Homosexuals are emotional and lack good judgment. Sodomy laws were not struck down in this country until the 70's. You know, when the communist backed Hippies started their garbage after the "Peace and Free Love" drugged up 60's.
Homosexuality is a marxist fostered mental illness. You need to do the research and drop the emotional reaction in favor of facts.
In the last few days a lot of pro-homosexuals in the miltiary people have been making their comments. As we know flowerplough got banned already. I suspect more will. They’re trying to be stealthy about it.
There is one and perhaps two on this thread, just for the record:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2782966/posts?page=64
Now That Homosexuals Can Serve ‘Openly’ Will They Obey DoD Directives?
The military is the watchman and as this country turns away from God, our activities are becoming as vain as Sodom's.
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