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We've found the heat! It's in the ocean, so even though it's not getting warmer, it will someday, we promise, according to our computer model. The science is once again settled.
1 posted on 09/19/2011 10:09:37 PM PDT by americanophile
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If the study group had sent submarines down periodically to check deep ocean temperatures, it might be worth looking at the associated assertions. But a naked “computer simulation” showing that it’s “possible” for deep ocean waters to counter a global accumulation of solar heat, hardly proves that this accumulation is taking place. It is, as another said, “the dog ate my homework.”


30 posted on 09/19/2011 11:18:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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Earth's "missing heat" has long been a mystery for climate scientists...

LOL...our theory is always right...although the evidence is often wrong.

34 posted on 09/19/2011 11:45:10 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Then again, the Earth could enter into another ice age, and the oceans would get colder. If warmer oceans keep the Earth cooler, do cooler oceans make the Earth warmer? More to the point, how much grant money did the “National Center for Atmosperic Research and the Bureau of Meteorology in Australia” get to find the lost heat?


35 posted on 09/19/2011 11:56:51 PM PDT by pallis
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Who wants to take bets on the next theory. I’m thinking something like tree cores or something like that. Something really stupid that scientists can make sound reasonable.


36 posted on 09/20/2011 12:36:19 AM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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The joint U.S.-Australian study, based on computer simulations of global climate,

To an outsider, the most significant innovation in the global warming controversy is the overt reliance that is being placed on models. Back in the days of nuclear winter, computer models were invoked to add weight to a conclusion: "These results are derived with the help of a computer model."

But now, large-scale computer models are seen as generating data in themselves. No longer are models judged by how well they reproduce data from the real world-increasingly, models provide the data.

As if they were themselves a reality. And indeed they are, when we are projecting forward. There can be no observational data about the year 2100. There are only model runs. This fascination with computer models is something I understand very well.---Michael Crichton

http://s8int.com/crichton.html

37 posted on 09/20/2011 1:08:51 AM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

39 posted on 09/20/2011 3:18:58 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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Hmm, looks like science, sounds like science, ... smells like bullshit.


40 posted on 09/20/2011 3:20:35 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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The warming oceans could then be a major contributor of carbon dioxide inasmuch that oceans are major absorbers of carbon dioxide but warmer oceans would expel carbon dioxide to the atmosphere - think about heating a soft drink or a can of beer.


41 posted on 09/20/2011 3:34:34 AM PDT by monocle (es have ing high income)
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So the fancy climate models failed to take into account that the Earth is 3/4th covered in oceans... but we can trust the conclusions derived from the model about global warming. Of course we can. We don’t want to be labeled a climate denier. We believe! We believe!


42 posted on 09/20/2011 4:03:37 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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10 years ago they predicted where the heat went. So they had a few studies in 2004-2007 (on lasted 3 years I think) to find the heat stored in the ocean.

They didn’t find the heat. So, being good scientists, they said

Either
1) heat is not stored in the ocean as current global warming theory requires

or

2) it’s not stored where we predicted.

Just kidding. They jumped straight to option 2. Didn’t even consider that the theory may be wrong when yet another prediction failed. The quotes from “scientists” are pretty amazing. Such as “we KNOW the heat is down there. we just need to find it”.


43 posted on 09/20/2011 5:00:19 AM PDT by LostPassword
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From today’s Boulder Daily Camera

“But Trenberth and his colleagues — including lead author Gerald Meehl — were able to show, using NCAR’s Community Climate System Model, that the excess heat is likely buried deeper than 1,000 feet in the ocean, where researchers now have few reliable temperature gauges. “

Wow, just as anthropogenic global warming (uh, I mean climate change) was becoming totally discredited by REAL science like CERN’s CLOUD experiment that shows solar cosmic ray fluctuation is the principal driver of cloud formation and therefore the principal driver of climate temperature change, the supposedly “missing” heat gets miraculously discovered! Well, at least sort of discovered, since it is only “likely” that it has been found, oh, and conveniently found where no measurements have been taken yet and where it is very unlikely any measurements will be made due to extreme expense. How convenient.

Even more convenient, the CCSM model which has been around for decades without showing any deep ocean heat suddenly reveals the supposedly “hidden heat” after being tweaked a tad to show what they wanted it to show. Hmmm, yum, now that’s some gooooood Bass-O-Matic Bass, uh, I mean Science! Or maybe it’s just some really delicious fudge. A bit hard to tell, don’t you think?


44 posted on 09/20/2011 9:24:29 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Earth's "missing heat" has long been a mystery for climate scientists...

In other words, the mystery of why the theory of human-caused carbon-release heat-buildup is an ABJECT FAILURE?

That mystery?

47 posted on 01/18/2015 5:18:06 AM PST by samtheman
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