US Military Plane Forced Down By North Korean Electronic Attack

By AFP ^ | 09-09-11

[KingLudd]

My specific beef is with Osborn for delivering such an important surveillance system to the chicoms. Am I saying he should have deliberately splashed? Yes. That is what I am saying. My general beef is with the military honoring such action. (Sorry to OP for the hijack)

[driftdiver]

Who? All kinds of people.

The NKs may not know they were successful. They may not know the extent of their success.

Other countries probably never heard about this incident until this information was released. If nothing else it gives them good propaganda material.

[hedgetrimmer]

Jeoff Hanser of Billings, Mont., said his brother, Jason Hanser, a cryptologic technician, told of immediately beginning to destroy secret documents and equipment.

“He said they were breaking things, scrambling things and even throwing things overboard,” Hanser said. “He told us he was very proud that the Chinese didn’t get any of the good stuff.”

From the St. Petersburg Times

[hamboy]

. . . hand-delivering a loaded EP-3 to the Chicoms.

What then if he ditched the plane and got 12 dead heroes? Would you and Fred Phelps be happier?

[hamboy]

Actually it's happening on daily basis there.

And not lots of American know this happened either...

GPS chaos: How a $30 box can jam your life

[gaijin]

This is a blessing in disguise; there’s a digital “take” in incidents like this, and properly studied, countermeasures can be taken.

This will also have the effect of hardening programming permitting for autonomous operation.

We needed to know this. My guess is this is far from the first time it happened.

If China did not provide the know-how, you can bet big that they WILL profit from the DPRK results.

[HKMk23]

When there’s a two mile wide, 300 foot deep crater where downtown Pyongyang used to be, THEN it will be a big deal. Until then, it’s all just a bunch a jaw jackin’; a sound and a fury signifying NOTHING.

[DivineMomentsOfTruth]

I’m still wondering why the cover-up of an obvious MISSILE launch off the west coast a few months ago.. China?

[ops33]

I think you are correct. In years gone by the term was MIJI, Meaconing, Intrusion, Jamming and Interference. Intrusion was someone make fake transmissions on the radio, Jamming was just that, while Meaconing was intentionally broadcasting false navigational signals sent to lure an aircraft off course. During the early part of the Cold War there were several instances of the East Bloc meaconing on navigational aids near the East European borders. There were a few instances of aircraft being meaconed into flying into East Germany and being shot down. Perhaps the GPS signals were being distorted to lure the aircraft into North Korea and be shot down. The aircraft, not being sure of its exact location, did declare an emergency was able to land inside South Korea. Just the knowledge that the NK’s could distort an aircraft's guidance to the point that the pilot did not know exactly where he was would be significant. MIJI, anyway, that's just a guess.

[magslinger]

Put a little Shrike in their life.

[yup2394871293]

It’s what they do at least once or twice a year.

[darkwing104]

Maybe somebody will get a clue and figure out the difference between ground jamming and a mechanical failure...

GPS jamming alone cannot force a plane to land...

[patriot preacher]

I’m just wondering if China finds value in North Korea, because they can try out strategy on real Western targets without repercussion.

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In a word, YES.

The Norkies don’t make a MOVE without their masters in Beijing first yanking their chain. They are China’s pet. The Chinese were probably there, taking notes, watching how their little pet’s weapon performed.

[Spirochete]

My specific beef is with Osborn for delivering such an important surveillance system to the chicoms. Am I saying he should have deliberately splashed? Yes. That is what I am saying. My general beef is with the military honoring such action.

Agree 100%

[lowflyn]

When I was in Korea in 98 the majority of the ISR birds were militarized civilian aircraft - mostly the DH-8. That aircraft has good navigation but when you fly the Z if anything happens to your navigation you turn left and land as soon as possible. Admittedly Seoul is only a couple minutes away in some places.

[lowflyn]

That picture has to be a fake

[Monorprise]

“I’d call that an act of war.”

I call it a serous vulnerability in our military aircraft if North Korea can do this.

[Monorprise]

I hope theses 30 dollar boxes become a lot more common, it is essencal that all of our systems both state side and in the military become hardened against a collapse of the GPS network.

We MUST have redundancy’s. System that uses GPS for time, should be able to rely upon internal clocks instead. Most GPS navigation equipment may fail, and non-critical civilian stuff may have no backup at all, but critical stuff must have a backup.

SO the more common theses 30 dollar boxs are the greater the camershals pressure to develop and deploy systems less volernable to a GPS failure.

[politicianslie]

0bama wouldn’t do that to fellow commies.

Obama is just playing like he is a Communist (Democrat, same thing).

Obama is a RADICAL Muslim plant whose purpose is to do as much damage as he can before he is tried for treason.

[ken21]

at least it didn’t land in china

and had to be disassembled and flown out piece by piece

as the chicoms did to the bushie kid.