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Vallely: Iran Goal EMPs on US Coastal Cities in Reach
Townhall.com ^ | September 5, 2011 | Bob Beauprez

Posted on 09/05/2011 5:56:24 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/05/2011 5:56:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The problem with a SCUD on a tub is that it does not leave a return address. We need to take a superstitous atitude.

Don Corleone: You talk about vengeance. Is vengeance gonna bring your son back to you and my boy to me? I forgo all the vengeance in my son. But I have selfish reasons. [after saying that Michael is returning to the U.S.] I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall him, if he should get shot in the head by a police officer, or if he should hang himself in his jail cell, or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning, then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room. And that, I do not forgive.

2 posted on 09/05/2011 6:01:51 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Kaslin

Seens to me that we are on the top of every nation’s $h!tlist.

Well, anybody that is too dumb to think we aren’t going to be hit again (a la 911) is a fool with their head in the sand.

Appears it’s time to purchase a new generator, and stock up on food, water, guns and ammo.


3 posted on 09/05/2011 6:02:39 AM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Kaslin

And thus exposed is the fallacy of Reactive Defense vs. Pro-active Defense.

In the first case you allow yourself to be attacked, Nukes, Chemicals or maybe even Bio-War weapons. That way you have the ‘moral’ authority to defend yourself. Of course millions of people in your country might be dead but ‘you’ DO have the moral upper-hand. Whoop-te-do.

On the other hand a proactive defense says: Ok, They have threatened and told us exactly what they are going to do once they get the weapons they need. Fine then, Blow the shit out of them first and say, “You said this is what you going to do to us, now this is what you get for tryng to kill our people. Tough shit!”


4 posted on 09/05/2011 6:05:22 AM PDT by The Working Man
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Appears it’s time to purchase a new generator...

With a spare ignition and controls. Then there's water. Got a well? How about a spare starter? If you're on a sewer line you'll be in deep... Oh, and try and run a gas pump after an EMP attack.

It's a long list.

5 posted on 09/05/2011 6:16:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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Moscow markets cruise missiles launched from a freight container --

IIRC, a cruise missile doesn't get high enough to make an EMP weapon effective.

6 posted on 09/05/2011 6:17:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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The irony of all this especially the EMP angle is that the U.S. could pop a single EMP (non-nuclear IIRC) over Tehran that would degrade their command and control enough to have all of Iran in chaos within minutes. Without effective communications with their provinces the ayatollahs’ regime would be decapitated and the people would quickly respond.

JMHO.


7 posted on 09/05/2011 6:19:13 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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What kind of computer system backups will survive an EMP?


8 posted on 09/05/2011 6:27:08 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: elcid1970

And we would still be in the dark as a result of not acting first.


9 posted on 09/05/2011 6:28:12 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Kaslin

We desperately need an Administration with the guts to take Iran down and seal our southern border.


10 posted on 09/05/2011 6:31:35 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Or from a John Wayne movie{Paraphrased}
If we get Nuked:your fault, my fault, anybodys fault. You are going to get nuked.
But then we aint dealing to rational people here.They wouldnt think of the MAD theory we had with the Russians. They want destruction....Islam is a mental illness afterall.


11 posted on 09/05/2011 6:34:41 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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>What kind of computer system backups will survive an EMP?

Those that are shielded with an EMP shield. Anything in Iron Mountain would be fine.


12 posted on 09/05/2011 6:38:04 AM PDT by soycd
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To: elcid1970

Like your idea


13 posted on 09/05/2011 6:53:00 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
None of this can be true. There was a National Intelligence Estimate back in 2007, I think, which stated that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons programs.

This estimate prevented Pres Bush from taking military action against iran.

It must have been true back then because all the media said it was.

14 posted on 09/05/2011 6:57:30 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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To: soycd
Those that are shielded with an EMP shield. Anything in Iron Mountain would be fine.
My brother works for a company that builds EMP-proof rooms, used mainly to house medical imaging systems (CAT & PET scanners), and also used to provide "bug-proof" rooms for the government.

He says that they have seen a considerable increase in interest from companies looking to put their computer centers in EMP-proof rooms.

I don't know if they know something we don't, but apparently more and more of them are taking this threat seriously.

15 posted on 09/05/2011 6:57:43 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Carry_Okie
With a spare ignition and controls. Then there's water. Got a well? How about a spare starter? If you're on a sewer line you'll be in deep... Oh, and try and run a gas pump after an EMP attack.
Make sure that any spare parts with digital electronics (just about anything, these days) are stored in a Faraday Cage, or an EMP will wipe them out.

I wouldn't worry about gasoline after an EMP attack. You'll be able to syphon it out of the hundreds of millions of dead cars littering the streets.

16 posted on 09/05/2011 7:02:25 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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When it comes to Iran, I will defer to the judgment of Curtis LeMay: “if you are going to use military force, then you ought to use overwhelming military force. Use too much and deliberately use too much..” translation, wipe them out.


17 posted on 09/05/2011 7:18:42 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Johnny B.
Make sure that any spare parts with digital electronics (just about anything, these days) are stored in a Faraday Cage, or an EMP will wipe them out.

A Faraday cage controls the E-field, not so much the B-field. They help take the pulse to ground, but only if it is grounded. An old microwave oven with a very short wire to ground will work well.

I wouldn't worry about gasoline after an EMP attack. You'll be able to syphon it out of the hundreds of millions of dead cars littering the streets.

I wouldn't get anywhere near a city with that many cars in such a case.

18 posted on 09/05/2011 7:28:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: samtheman

“What kind of computer system backups will survive”
^^^^^^^

Anything burned to DVD will be fine.

Your computer’s hard drive, motherboard, processor, graphics card, networking, and external hard drive will be toast. So will your vehicle’s electronics, unless you have an early 1980s or earlier model.

It’s a good idea to regularly burn everything to DVD, and keep the copies in a bag you can bug out with. If the worst case happens, you’ll be able to restore your data someday when computers come back.


19 posted on 09/05/2011 7:28:58 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: elcid1970
"The irony of all this especially the EMP angle is that the U.S. could pop a single EMP (non-nuclear IIRC) over Tehran that would degrade their command and control enough to have all of Iran in chaos within minutes. Without effective communications with their provinces the ayatollahs’ regime would be decapitated and the people would quickly respond."

Good forecast, but Obama would rather see chaos engulf the US.

20 posted on 09/05/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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