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To: Hoosier-Daddy
risking hell will do that.

There is no such thing as risking hell. We all deserve hell. This is the third or fourth thread about this study and very few people have shown any compassion for these women who not only carry the guilt of what they've done but also as the article points out often live their lives in the torture of serious mental problems. Those who have since become saved deserve our understanding. Those who have not need our compassion. All need our prayers. God loves them as much as He loves us. It's like most FReepers have never read the New Testament.

8 posted on 09/02/2011 6:01:22 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Stated beautifully.


11 posted on 09/02/2011 6:11:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Pan_Yan

+1

As my Catholic friends would advise me. . .”Hate the sin, but love the sinner.”


12 posted on 09/02/2011 6:12:58 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: Pan_Yan

Good one. No one is beyond the redeeming grace of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.


17 posted on 09/02/2011 6:40:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Pan_Yan

God created us in His image. We are imperfect beings compared to him. What you’ve just implied is that God created all of us to go to Hell. What kind of God would that be?

Sorry, but we all don’t deserve eternal damnation. That is a ridiculous statement.


22 posted on 09/02/2011 8:04:15 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Pan_Yan
“There is no such thing as risking hell. We all deserve hell”
Bullshit!

Sounds like you don't believe “Hell” actually exists, Pan_Yan.
It does.
BTW, I have read both the Old and New Testaments of the King James English language translation version of the “Holy Bible”.
You are aware there are other, older translations of texts dated in both BC and AC that were NOT included in the old King James version, right?
I have read numerous ancient writings and runes, supposedly representing various human interpretations of the literal “Holy words of God”.
And I personally walked on the dark, evil side of spirituality, for a very short while.

God will indeed judge my soul, I have absolutely no doubt about that.

God will also judge YOUR soul, and IMHO, all your spiritual-lite friends.
Actions have real consequences in both the physical world, and the spiritual world.
Yeah, women who freely chose to murder their innocent babies in the womb, will suffer “mental health problems” in the physical realm, and other, often greater issues in the spiritual realm.
DUH!
That said, what level of “compassion and understanding” do you extend to the pedophiles, rapists, adulterers, and generally immoral sexual deviants who impregnated the woman who had the abortion? God is not stupid, nor does he play political games.

25 posted on 09/02/2011 9:18:58 PM PDT by sarasmom ( A Fine is a Tax for doing wrong. A Tax is a Fine for doing well.)
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To: Pan_Yan

You are absolutely right.

When counseling post-abortion women, they always broke down in tears and surprise when they were informed that remorse and regret, guilt and self hate are the NORMAL reactions of a mother who has killed one (or more) of her children. Lack of remorse/regret/guilt is an abnormal reaction.

When counseling pre-abortive women, those who were ‘hell bent’ to have an abortion were those who were being pushed by someone who wanted the abortion, more than she did.

Post abortive men felt helpless, and like failures in their roles as men, because they could not protect the most helpless of their offspring.

Men who paid for their women to abort, were every bit as disgusted with themselves as the ptsd inflicted women were, with themselves.

The OP article is a major break through!! Back in the early 90’s, printed materials described ptsd type reactions in those who’d had miscarriages, but denied the feelings and reactions of post abortive women.

They went so far as to say that those who did have strong reactions were pre-disposed toward mental health issues.

But I know personally that counselors at abortion clinics told women they might get the ‘blues’ for a couple of weeks, but that it was just a hormonal adjustment because their bodies weren’t pregnant anymore. When the adjustment phase passed, and the ‘blues’ were still there, women had NO place to turn.

That “tree” of the knowledge of good and evil is definitely one that’s best not tasted. The fruit looks good to the eye, but it’s bitter in the belly.


28 posted on 09/02/2011 10:34:59 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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