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1 posted on 08/26/2011 10:22:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I wonder if there is not a correlation between welfare (and unemployment) benefits and these crime statistics. In the 70’s and 80’s could you collect several years of unemployment? We’re 1/6 people in modern day bread lines (food stamps), having their needs met, receiving Social Security Disability (I just read on another forum applications are in the millions, and have risen greatly over the last few years).

It’s one thing to say “Unemployement has risen” (especially with the myriad of ways to manipulate that number) it’s another to say “the people have no money.” Cut off the benefits and see how long crime stays low. I bet it’s minutes.


2 posted on 08/26/2011 10:34:29 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: neverdem

Flash mobs and copper thieves are a big new increase in crime.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 12:07:25 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

Castle doctrine, CCW, and a change in governments attitude to the use of force by victims against the aggressors.


14 posted on 08/27/2011 3:16:21 AM PDT by MCF
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To: All

Be careful with this whole “crime is down” argument. 35 to 40 percent of all police departments do not report their UCR (Uniform Crime Reports) to the FBI, nor are they mandated to.

There are also some agencies that are classifying a string of crimes as one incident. For example, 50 cars broke into one spot by two guys. That’s one continous incident, not 50 car burglaries or break ins. Two guys get shot on the corner, one incident, not two assault firsts.


16 posted on 08/27/2011 4:15:39 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: neverdem

crime is reported to have risen 400% in NYC. violent crime rates all over have dropped but the property crime rates have risen every where. Murder rates have dropped everywhere as well. Is that because fewer people are getting shot or stabbed? Or because modern medicine is able to keep these people alive? Look at the murder rates and then look at the aggravated assault rates. Some may be surprised to see lower murder rates but increases in agg assault rates.


17 posted on 08/27/2011 4:53:30 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: neverdem
Wow - James Q. Wilson. His studies were the backbone of Rudy Giuliani's clean-up of NYC. It wouldn't be out of line to call him "Rudy Giuliani's Professor."
18 posted on 08/27/2011 6:23:00 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: neverdem

So crime is rational if one’s perception is distorted by exagerated senses of despair?

I can see some heavy socialist manipulation there.


21 posted on 08/27/2011 6:52:00 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: neverdem
James Q. Wilson is one of the few true experts on crime in America. He usually gets it.

What I don't understand is this: the majority of property crimes and crimes against persons are committed by the younger adults. In the US in the 1960's, when crime was rising and attracting headlines, the modal American was in his twenties.

Now, the modal American is over forty, the oldest ever. Not so many forty-plus year-olds out there stealing cars and stirring up trouble. I wonder why criminologists don't report on the obvious age variable, even to knock it down if it doesn't hold.

29 posted on 08/27/2011 11:56:36 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

In my area, crime has definately risen.

Actually punishing those who are guilt has NOT risen.

They keep getting let go without fines or punishment.

That alone helps there statistics. It isn’t helping the victims of all the break-ins.


31 posted on 08/27/2011 1:46:34 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem

In my area, crime has definately risen.

Actually punishing those who are guilt has NOT risen.

They keep getting let go without fines or punishment.

That alone helps their statistics. It isn’t helping the victims of all the break-ins.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 1:46:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem
Jobs have fled, lawbreaking hasn’t risen—

Looks like this guy has been in a coma for the last couple of years.

He has yet to hear about "flash mobs?"

33 posted on 08/27/2011 2:42:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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