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Ruben Rosario: Will the death penalty endure? Not if this attorney can help it
Pioneer Press ^ | 8-19-11 | rube rosario

Posted on 08/19/2011 7:26:26 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

Wells, like many attorneys who plunge into this protracted and rewarding but frustrating legal venture, is morally and philosophically opposed to the death penalty. Although 34 states have it, there are other reasons Minnesota should continue to oppose it.

Several credible national studies conclude, and nearly 90 percent of the nation's top criminologists in a recent survey agree, that the death penalty has very little, if any, effect at all on deterring violent crime. So agrees the law enforcement community. A national poll of police chiefs placed it dead last, pun intended, on ways to reduce violent crime. The chiefs also consider it the least efficient use of taxpayer money.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: attorney; criminologists; death; deathpenalty; legal; penalty; punishment; wells
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FWIW, Ruben is the the Press's resident author of numerous left-leaning criminal justice sob stories.
1 posted on 08/19/2011 7:26:32 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Some people just need killin.


2 posted on 08/19/2011 7:31:50 PM PDT by allmost
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The scumbag might feel differently if his closest relatives were brutalized and murdered by the animals he loves. Otherwise this pitiful cockroach will continue to whistle past the graveyards of murder victims.


3 posted on 08/19/2011 7:33:19 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Even though I am a strong advocate of the death penalty, I would be open to a life sentence. Let them live in the hell that is life in a penitentiary, then when they die ... the ultimate life sentence.


4 posted on 08/19/2011 7:34:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: allmost

I don’t know if the death penalty stops people from killin’. I just know it stops them from killin’ again.-Elvis Presley


5 posted on 08/19/2011 7:35:51 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Luke21

If only someone could arrange for ol’ Rube to encounter some of his poor downtrodden murderers.


6 posted on 08/19/2011 7:36:15 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: doc1019

The problem is that governors and laws change, which means that the killers could end up eligible for parole. Look at how the Manson women are eligible, how Charles Manson comes up for parole every so often.


7 posted on 08/19/2011 7:39:17 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: allmost

“Some people just need killin.”

Perhaps including that attorney.

/sarc


8 posted on 08/19/2011 7:39:50 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I oppose the death penalty for practical reasons. That said, I am not sad when a scumbag meats his demise.


9 posted on 08/19/2011 7:40:23 PM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Niuhuru

Good point.


10 posted on 08/19/2011 7:42:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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"I don’t know if the death penalty stops people from killin’. I just know it stops them from killin’ again.-Elvis Presley"

OMG, did the King really say that? The issue has never been so simply stated.

11 posted on 08/19/2011 7:42:09 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Still Think You're Free?)
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There ya goe gettin awl elvis on mu.


12 posted on 08/19/2011 7:43:30 PM PDT by allmost
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"open to a life sentence"

Not me. How much does it cost us to pay for prison-space, food, clothing, medication, entertainment, guards, utilities, maintenance... and on, and on - to house murderers for the rest of their lives? Facts are tough things to refute, but from my understanding we pay in the multiple billions of tax dollars to coddle these criminals.

Don't think for a minute that we don't coddle them, hell they get free books, tv's, radios, and 'hobby materials' to play with every day (the list is long and maddening.)

13 posted on 08/19/2011 7:47:25 PM PDT by Ron C.
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I oppose the death penalty for practical reasons
Charging the public for life sentences is more practical?
14 posted on 08/19/2011 7:47:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Charging the public to coddle known killers for the rest of their lives is an insult to intelligence, and our pocketbook.

Give us back Judge Roy Bean - he hung all convicted killers the morning following his death sentence. Best way to handle that, imho - at NO cost to the public.

Should be a national law - no state able to opt-out.

15 posted on 08/19/2011 7:52:18 PM PDT by Ron C.
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What a bunch of BS. Let's get Old Sparky fired up. So many filthy dirt bags, so little time.

Wesley Cook aka Mumia Abu Jamal

16 posted on 08/19/2011 7:54:30 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Ron C.

Someone actually posted something here about that. It cost more to continually defend someone from the death penalty then to just pay for their continued housing in a prison.


17 posted on 08/19/2011 7:55:50 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: allmost

>>Some people just need killin.<<

I don’t remember what Texas official said it, but I recall him saying “if you kill one of us, we’ll kill you back!”


18 posted on 08/19/2011 7:55:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The death penalty would be more effective as a deterrent if it were conducted publicly.

Even if it isn’t effective as a deterrent (which I disagree with) it still fills two more indispensable roles:

1. It is the only 100% guaranteed method to prevent recidivism. A serial pedophile that’s been executed will never rape anyone else’s kids again.
2. It is the only 100% guaranteed method for containing criminals that are so dangerous even the *possibility* that they might escape to wreak havoc again is far too much. See most of the Texas Seven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Seven); most of them were serving life-plus, no chance of ever getting out. Officer Aubrey Hawkins would still be alive today if those people had been executed instead.

Show me a 100% foolproof, escapeproof detention method that prevents recidivism 100% of the time and we can take the death penalty off the menu. Until then, as far as I am concerned, it needs to stay.


19 posted on 08/19/2011 7:56:07 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Police chiefs, huh? The most liberal cry babies on any police force. Political cronies who owe their jobs to big city mayors (Democrats, all).


20 posted on 08/19/2011 7:56:16 PM PDT by OldPossum
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