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China May Stop Buying Treasurys as Growth Slows: Roach
CNBC ^ | 17 Aug 2011 | Margo D. Beller

Posted on 08/17/2011 2:43:17 PM PDT by Qbert

The weakness of the American consumer is having repercussions in China, which may stop buying more U.S. Treasurys as it focuses on internal consumption rather than exports, Stephen Roach, the non-executive chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia, told CNBC Wednesday

That could result in "higher interest rates and/or a weaker dollar, and we’re not going to be able to fund ourselves on the terms we have been funding ourselves externally," he said.

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"This is China’s wakeup call," he warned. China can "no longer afford to stay the course of export-led growth that is hooked on the bandwagon of the American consumer."

Under its most recent five-year plan, China will be focusing more on internal consumption, Roach said.

When it focused on exports, China was sitting on "trade surpluses, current account surpluses, and massive accumulations of foreign-exchange reserves, two-thirds of which have to be reinvested in dollar-based assets," he said. "That’s what keeps them alive as the biggest foreign buyer of U.S. Treasurys."

But as China boosts internal consumption, domestic savings goes down and so does its foreign-exchange accumulation, Roach said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; debt; fed; treasuries

1 posted on 08/17/2011 2:43:25 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

This is where China’s economy will come apart. Their growth was based upon low (slave like) wages so their goods could compete worldwide. In order to spur domestic consumption, they will have to raise wages so that their populace can actually afford to buy their goods.

Raise the wages, and their exports can no longer compete. Bring on the social unrest in China!


2 posted on 08/17/2011 2:49:53 PM PDT by datura (CHANGE??? Change it BACK!!!!)
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To: Qbert
China May Stop Buying Treasurys

You can't cut me off man, you can't cut me off. Who else will be my supplier? I need more than even Germany can provide, and they've got their own friends to support. I know you have another $100 billion stashed away. You gotta let me have it. I'm going crazy without it man...

Ahhhhh. Thanks dude. This is the last time. I promise... you sure you don't have any more you can spare?

3 posted on 08/17/2011 2:57:37 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: Qbert

..........not to worry, Geither will print ‘em and Bernanke will buy ‘em.....

Monetizing more debt, right pocket to left pocket...illusions of liquidity....

All gonna collapse soon.


4 posted on 08/17/2011 3:04:12 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: datura
they will have to raise wages so that their populace can actually afford to buy their goods

China is bowing to the reality that its almost-rampant inflation is raising domestic prices and wages to the point that its products will soon not have an advantage over those of its customers. They're not focusing on domestic consumption out of the goodness of their hearts.

Remember, it is inflation that causes long-term trade deficits for the reason mentioned above. Japan and Germany have had the discipline to resist inflating -- China (and, of course, the U.S.) haven't.

One more thing, when you hear the Europeans hectoring the Germans to increase their domestic economy, what they're really saying is, "Inflate, dammit, inflate like we are!"

5 posted on 08/17/2011 3:11:54 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Qbert
it seems that with China's population, it should never have to export anything.

it should barely be able to keep production up with demand, but... generations of communist and government repression have seen to that

6 posted on 08/17/2011 3:36:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Qbert
Table 7: China's Top Trade Partners, 2010 ($ billion)

The way I read that table the U.S. is Red China's Number one trading "partner." So..

China May Stop Buying Treasurys as Growth Slows: Roach

but that's Great news!

We'll miss boat loads of cheap Chinese-made US Corporation goods shipped here for sale but the Chi-Coms will experience massive layoffs!

And as tens of millions more become unemployed Red China will have REVOLUTION! What a deal!

Maybe the Maoists will rise up, arrest and execute the corrupt Dengists! I like it.

BTW, it was Mr. Roach who seven or eight years ago wrote that you cannot recover from a recession depending so much upon "imported productivity" and the "income leakage" that it causes is not good. Ya think?

7 posted on 08/17/2011 3:59:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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It’s a sad day when America weeps that we are not being bought out and our economy is not supported by a Communist country.


8 posted on 08/17/2011 4:07:21 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Qbert

China is under no obligation to buy our debt and, frankly, their decision diminishes Democrat power so I support it.


9 posted on 08/17/2011 4:36:00 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: panaxanax
"It’s a sad day when America weeps that we are not being bought out and our
economy is not supported by a Communist country."

Thank the "Free Traitors".
There is no shortage of them around here.

10 posted on 08/17/2011 4:37:34 PM PDT by trickyricky
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To: wac3rd
Bernake's FED is apparently taking down all open market surplus supply of US TBills TBonds and TNotes. If and when the Fed restores the law of supply and demand, the party begins. Right now, everyone is buying bonds from the Government they fear, flight to quality or jumping on our Gold Rush. Anybody in this wide audience ever hear of MONEY SUPPLY?? M1, M2, etc. Simple guess all this fresh new dinero is out chasin' and driving up all these markets. How's YOUR money market doing? Nobody wants digital cash, pay to play anyone? There is no escaping this grim fact; our wild-ass huge money supply is rapidly inflating proportionate BUBBLEs.

That's right, there is no place to hide. DC et al has screwed the pooch.

11 posted on 08/17/2011 4:47:01 PM PDT by Broker (Never take a lawyer to a knife fight.)
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