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Three New "Plutos"? Possible Dwarf Planets Found
http://news.nationalgeographic.com ^ | Published August 11, 2011 | Rachel Kaufman

Posted on 08/16/2011 12:47:34 PM PDT by Red Badger

Small objects could be rounded worlds, based on likely sizes, experts say.

Three relatively bright space rocks recently found in Pluto's neighborhood may be new members of the dwarf planet family, astronomers say.

The objects were discovered in a little studied section of the Kuiper belt, a region of the solar system that starts beyond the orbit of Neptune and extends 5.1 billion miles (8.2 billion kilometers) from the sun.

Astronomer Scott Sheppard, of the Carnegie Institute of Washington, and colleagues found the bodies using the 1.3-meter Warsaw University Telescope at Las Campanas in Chile.

The region of the Kuiper belt visible from Earth's Northern Hemisphere has been fairly well studied. But until recently, a lack of instruments prohibited searches from the Southern Hemisphere.

The latest survey turned up 14 new Kuiper belt objects, three of which are probably big enough to join Pluto, Eris, Ceres, Haumea, and Makemake in dwarf-planet status, the study authors say. (Related: "Pluto Gets 14 New Neighbors.")

"I'm glad someone finally did it. It needed to happen," Mike Brown, a Caltech astronomer who was not involved in the study, said of the southern-sky survey.

New Bodies Are Planetary Pipsqueaks

The International Astronomical Union defines a dwarf planet as something orbiting the sun that's so massive its own gravity molds the object into a rough sphere. Such worlds also haven't cleared their neighborhoods of other small, planet-like bodies.

(Related: "New Moon Discovered Orbiting Pluto.")

By estimating the objects' reflectivity, Sheppard and colleagues could derive their sizes: The largest object is likely 384 miles (620 kilometers) across. The worlds are massive enough to be round, but they're still pipsqueaks, even by dwarf-planet standards.

By contrast, Pluto and Eris are both 1,450 miles (2,333 kilometers) or so wide. Ceres, the smallest of the confirmed dwarfs, is about 303 miles (487 kilometers) across.

(Related: "NASA's Dawn Spacecraft to Reach Asteroid This Weekend.")

Because the newfound objects are so small and so far away, astronomers can't yet say for sure whether they are in fact spherical and therefore worthy of being named dwarf planets.

Pluto Has No Southern Twins?

The Kuiper belt is full of objects about the size—or at least the brightness—of the three new bodies, Brown added. In fact, there are 37 other objects in the Kuiper belt at least as bright as the newly discovered candidate dwarfs.

Still, the new work does help fill in gaps in the known population of the solar system.

"By determining how many large objects are in the Kuiper belt, we now know how much stuff is there," study leader Sheppard said. "The point was to complete [our knowledge of] the Kuiper belt."

For instance, the study closes the possibility of finding a larger, Pluto-size object in the southern skies.

But it's always possible that "we will find more objects out in the next region [beyond the Kuiper belt], where Sedna is," Caltech's Brown said, referring to another candidate dwarf planet, which orbits at an average of 8.9 billion miles (14.3 billion kilometers) from the sun.

The paper describing the three possible new dwarfs has been accepted for publication in the Astronomical Journal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: caltech; ceres; eris; haumea; kbo; kuiperbeltobject; makemake; mikebrown; neptune; pluto; rachelkaufman; scottsheppard; sedna; sourcetitlenoturl; tno; xplanets
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An illustration of a planet-like body in the Kuiper belt.

1 posted on 08/16/2011 12:47:39 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Is there a red dwarf named Reich?


2 posted on 08/16/2011 12:50:51 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Red Badger

I’m starting to think pluto got downgraded to hype these lesser rocks.


3 posted on 08/16/2011 12:54:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Red Badger
I would think that Sol would appear quite a bit smaller when viewed from the Kuiper belt.
4 posted on 08/16/2011 12:57:40 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: Red Badger
Pluto and Dwarfs?

What happened to Snow White?

5 posted on 08/16/2011 1:00:29 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama and the Dems - The flash mob raiding the Treasury.)
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To: Red Badger

A whole lot more than three Plutos.

And more than enough dwarfs.

6 posted on 08/16/2011 1:12:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I would think that Sol would appear quite a bit smaller when viewed from the Kuiper belt.

Agreed. More like a candle at 50 yards. Who are these artists?

7 posted on 08/16/2011 1:15:55 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Red Badger
Makemake? There's a dwarf planet named Makemake?

Thanks, Red Badger (Scoutmaster said, filing the information away in the very unlikely event that it's necessary he know it in the future).

8 posted on 08/16/2011 1:20:06 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Red Badger
"Predictions of the coming of Planet X, or Nibiru, supposedly due to arrive...in 2012"

Caliing Art or George.

9 posted on 08/16/2011 1:24:21 PM PDT by muleskinner
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Bloody Sam Roberts: I would think that Sol would appear quite a bit smaller when viewed from the Kuiper belt.

cicero2k: Agreed. More like a candle at 50 yards. Who are these artists?

I believe what they are portraying is how the comet Elenin is going to look when it comes directly between Earth and the Sun on a month or so, and it's tail points directly at us (it's not just size - the sun isn't usually illustrated with such distinct rays). After all, just because the article is about something apparently completely different, doesn't mean they should miss an opportunity for subliminal messaging.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 1:26:58 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Magnitude of the Sun at Pluto : -18

Magnitude of the Moon from Earth: -12

The sun from pluto would be roughly as bright as the earth from the moon.


11 posted on 08/16/2011 1:35:24 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Red Badger
Man, they dissed Quaoar. I'll bet it is because he is a Native American god.

It sucks being the Ron Paul of the Kuiper Belt.

12 posted on 08/16/2011 1:38:02 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Obama - the Half-Black Plague)
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To: Pollster1

Do do think Snow White only knows white dwarfs and not brown dwarfs, too? Any idea on the names of those brown dwarfs of diversity? LOL!


13 posted on 08/16/2011 1:47:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Scoutmaster

File it next to Mahi-Mahi........................


14 posted on 08/16/2011 1:47:41 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Scoutmaster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_%28mythology%29


15 posted on 08/16/2011 1:48:34 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Talisker
Not buying it.

Here is the path and the name of the photo file;

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/388/cache/three-new-kuiper-bodies-found-possible-plutos_38827_600x450.jpg

Nothing there about comets.

Besides, which is the body in the foreground...the Earth, the Sun or the comet Elenin?
None of the above. Additionally, the words 'comet' or 'Elenin' do not appear in the article.

16 posted on 08/16/2011 2:48:38 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: BenKenobi

Apparent Magnitude is a logarithmic scale, with 5 degrees = 100X difference. Thus the -18 mag object would be about 250 times as bright as the -12 mag object.


17 posted on 08/16/2011 4:14:55 PM PDT by mikrofon (Space BUMP)
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To: Red Badger
What is the correct pronunciation of Kuiper?

I have never heard anyone say the word, but for some reason I always pronounce it Koy-per

18 posted on 08/16/2011 4:51:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961

Ki-per, rhymes with sniper....


19 posted on 08/16/2011 5:36:15 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Red Badger
DIBS!

Oh, man, you guys are gonna be soooo jealous...

20 posted on 08/16/2011 5:39:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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