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House Democrat: “We wouldn`t cut entitlements or the rate of increase for Obama”
lexisnexis transcript of MSNBC LIVE ^ | August 12, 2011 | REP. JERROLD NADLER

Posted on 08/16/2011 6:17:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs

REP. JERROLD NADLER (D), NEW YORK: First of all, you have to fight them, second of all, you have to educate the American people. And you have to define that there are two separate problems we are dealing with. And we`re putting the less immediate problems front and center with not dealing with the real immediate problem.

SHARPTON: What is the less immediate problem?

NADLER: The less immediate problem is the deficit. We can deal with that a couple years from now. Right now, we must do exactly what Secretary Reich are saying, we`ve got to deal with the jobs problem. If we can get the unemployment rate down to five percent which it where it was a few years ago, that would take care of a third to half of the deficit by itself. And the only way to do that is to put more money in circulation. For the federal government, frankly spend more money. Run temporarily a larger deficit in order to put people to work, put them to work building roads, hospitals, bridges, fiber optic.

SHARPTON: Well, how do we do that if you.

NADLER: But not only that, but not only that, also giving money to the states and saying, don`t lay-off people. Do not contract with the private guy to fix the potholes et cetera. Because the states have to balance their budget. The federal governments doesn`t have to balance the budget every year. How do you do that? We need presidential leadership. The president has been defining the wrong problem. He is been going along saying that the major problem is the deficit. Now he is trying to talk about jobs. But the jobs take precedence over the deficit. And what we.

SHARPTON: The president is talking jobs, he`s going on a job bus tour start Monday. That`s going to change the votes in Congress?

NADLER: It might if he makes the demands big enough. If he puts out and says, let`s do $500 billion infrastructure bill over the next six years and let`s pass it now. If he went into people`s districts and said, there`s that crumbling road, we got to fix it. There`s that crumbling school, we need to fix it and put people to work in your district, Congressman, doing that. Instead of talking, if the deficit were the biggest problem, we`ve got to deal with the deficit but first you have to deal with the jobs, and you can`t deal with the deficits.

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SHARPTON: Now, where is the democratic caucus playing on — the plan that Secretary Reich wants the president to do is democratic caucus.

NADLER: Democratic caucus is a whole that`s come up with a number of plans.

SHARPTON: Well, give me the plan.

NADLER: Well, the democratic progressive caucus came up with a plan for, which would balance the budget faster than any other plan. But we have major infrastructure bills, aid the states, we`ll have revenues by raising tax rates and millionaires and billionaires.

SHARPTON: But isn`t that grand bargain plan, isn`t that the plan that president laid out and said that Boehner walked out on?

NADLER: No. Because we wouldn`t cut entitlements. We`re not going to say to some senior citizen living on $14,000 in Social Security, we will going to cut your benefits, we`re going to cut the rate of increase.

SHARPTON: Nancy Pelosi wasn`t in those meetings when all of this was on will table?

NADLER: I don`t know that Nancy ever agreed to that. I don`t think she was. She was called in later because initially they were ignoring her.

SHARPTON: Well, no but when Boehner walked out of the meeting Nancy Pelosi was never at the table. What I`m saying is, the plan that I`m hearing you say, was that being touted by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

NADLER: I don`t know. I can`t answer that question

Entire transcript at: MSNBC LIVE for August 12, 2011 (LexisNexis Transcript)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; democrats; economy; entitlements; sharpton
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Two gems in this, first he said another massive government stimulus would cut the deficit by increasing tax revenue by 'putting people to work' (we saw that in 2009 right???) , and then he said House Democrats wouldnt support cutting entitlements for a Obama 'big deal' after all the spin about Obama putting trillions of entitlement cuts 'on the table'.

If Obama really agreed to cut entitlements he'd get a primary challenge. But just yesterday on his bus tour he repeated this lie and Republicans once again let him get away with it.

1 posted on 08/16/2011 6:18:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

You have to go into deeper debt to get out of debt?

Jabba is absolutely insane.


2 posted on 08/16/2011 6:25:01 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: sickoflibs
Good. The worst thing that could happen to us now is for the Dems to become reasonable and move to the center. The loonies will pull Obama further left, and it won't be hard because that is the direction Obama wants to go in any case. Our best case is for the congressional dems to look out of touch and dogmatic and for Obama to look completely unhinged. And that is exactly where things are going now.
3 posted on 08/16/2011 6:25:34 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

I saw this gem on TV last week and luckily a transcript was posted.


4 posted on 08/16/2011 6:25:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs
Nadler is dead right! But his reasoning only applies in an alternate universe, where the laws of physics, mathematical induction and economics are all counter to those that apply in the real world.
5 posted on 08/16/2011 6:28:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: sickoflibs

fixing a screwl means paying the unions more.


6 posted on 08/16/2011 6:28:54 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Yep, Obama has a real problem. Unlike Clinton, he doesn’t have a Republican controlled House and Senate to allow him to move to the center.


7 posted on 08/16/2011 6:29:04 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: sickoflibs

Stealing from one to give to another is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!! It is not Constitutional!


8 posted on 08/16/2011 6:29:04 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: sickoflibs
The Dummycans need to call Bambi on “The Plan I proposed but Bohner walked away from” That plan was a non starter with the Rat Senate. When Boner called him on it and Dingy and Bug Eyes caught wind they put Bambi in his place at which point Bambi “Moved the Goal Post” on Bohner.

This talking point needs to be taken away, Bambi is already using it on his Magical Misery Tour.

9 posted on 08/16/2011 6:29:52 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

As someone posted at the Wall Street Journal, why doesn’t the government just give everyone a job at a salary of $1 million a year? Problem solved.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 6:35:12 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: sickoflibs
And that's on top of this...

Baseline Budgeting Makes Real Cuts Impossible in Washington

11 posted on 08/16/2011 6:40:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: sickoflibs
Good Lord, these people are idiots. I knew Sharpton was, everyone knows that. But Nadler isn't any better. There ought to be an IQ test administered to all elected officials. Bet it would clear the deck.
12 posted on 08/16/2011 6:44:27 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: sickoflibs
Sorry guys, your slip is showing. You try to make this urgent case for jobs now, as though it is suddenly the objective. But why not in the weeks and months leading up to the debt ceiling dust-up? How is it that you suddenly realize the importance of jobs? If Democrats think the electorate isn't on to their failed economic policy efforts in 2009 and their sudden recognition of the jobs issue, only in the shadow of the 2012 elections, they are going to have a sweet collision with reality on the evening of November 6, 2012.
13 posted on 08/16/2011 6:46:53 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: sickoflibs

Clearly Nadler hasn’t cut his appetite for, um, spending...


14 posted on 08/16/2011 6:47:10 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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15 posted on 08/16/2011 6:56:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: sickoflibs

Nadler: poster boy for the terminal mental disease that is liberalism.

Hey Jerry: we tried your idea in 2008-09. Didn’t work. What’s different this time?


16 posted on 08/16/2011 7:01:00 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: sickoflibs
This is precisely the line of "reasoning" (so-called) that one hears from an increasing number of voices on the Left.

In keeping with their socialist beliefs and adherence to Keynesian economics, leading Democrats including the President have decided to focus not on debt, but on jobs. Their basic principle is that the government, not the private sector, must create employment opportunities (and training for those jobs) through more spending (universally referred to, of course, as "investment").

In turn, those working at these new (preferably "green") jobs will generate additional revenue through their tax payments and stimulate their local economies through spending and investment. In order to accomplish such growth, the central planners in Washington will need to raise taxes on "the wealthy", who will of course hand over the additional money without altering their behavior in the slightest, while Washington also foments additional monetary stimulus, primarily by a renewed program of debt monetization (i.e. - QE2.1, or QE3).

By focusing on job creation rather than debt, Democrats hope to gain a political advantage over Republicans, whom they will portray (as ever) as greedy protectors of Plutocratic wealth. And the debt itself will naturally vanish as millions of Americans are put back to work by the government, building roads and bridges and producing windmills and hybrid car batteries, all of course at unionized jobs at good wages.

Now, if you object that all of the foregoing is an impossible fantasy because central planning does not and cannot work, as it can never allocate capital as efficiently as markets and in fact relies on the destruction of private wealth through excessive taxation and regulation, and that every past attempt to control an economy in such manner results in poverty, scarcity of goods, and tyrannical social controls, they'll probably just call you a "racist Tea Partier" and obviously too stupid to appreciate the depth of their brilliance and the purity of their intentions.

And you will also know how this story ends.

17 posted on 08/16/2011 7:01:24 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: sickoflibs

What do you expect. It’s a socialist and a communist, conversing.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 7:05:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Why did you post this, and why did you post it on Free Republic?)
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To: Fair Paul

Wilkomen in Weimar America!


19 posted on 08/16/2011 7:08:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: sickoflibs
Hey DEMS - where is your ability to compromise? Oh I forgot it is a one-way street with you libtards, similar to being called a racist.

We are at WAR for anyone who cannot recognize what is going on in America. DEMS position on entitlements will ensure they are not there for our kids and grand kids - now that is what I call an UMCOMPROMISING POSITION.

Has there been a response to the issue of compromise from the GOP yet? Oh, I didn't think so.
20 posted on 08/16/2011 7:08:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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