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US helicopter 'shot down' by Taliban in Afghanistan
BBC ^ | 8/6/11 | BBC News

Posted on 08/06/2011 9:56:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

A US helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan has killed 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers, President Hamid Karzai's office says.

US media reports that many of those killed were from the elite Navy SEALs.

Neither the US nor Nato have confirmed the cause, but witnesses, officials and the Taliban say it was shot down.

The incident is believed to be the biggest single loss of life for US forces in Afghanistan since operations began in 2001.

The Chinook helicopter went down overnight in Wardak province, the statement from President Karzai's office said.

It was returning from an operation against the Taliban in which eight insurgents are believed to have been killed.

A senior official of President Barack Obama's administration said the helicopter was apparently shot down, Associated Press news agency said.

An official with the Nato-led coalition in Afghanistan told the New York Times the helicopter was shot down with a rocket-propelled grenade.

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ABC News said 25 Navy Seals were on board, plus seven Afghan special forces soldiers, five crew and one interpreter.

AP says most of those killed were from Seal Team Six - the same unit which killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan May.

The size of Team Six is not known.

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alreadyposted; ch47; helicopter; navyseals; qari; qaritahir; shotdown; tahir; taliban; teamsix
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Semper Fi & GodSpeed, Warriors!

Deepest Heartfelt Condolences and Sympathies to All those who have sacrificed so much, from the families, friends, colleagues, and commanders they leave behind.

1 posted on 08/06/2011 9:56:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Such a tragedy. I pray that we are not so transfixed with our economic problems in this country that we ignore the tremendous loss of heroes we have just witnessed. May each of these brave freedom fighters be honored by all whom they defended and may they receive their just rewards. God, please comfort and defend their families now and always. Rest in peace, faithful patriots.


2 posted on 08/06/2011 10:02:08 AM PDT by Faith
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To: NormsRevenge

Prayers up for the families, friends and fellow soldiers of these fallen Heroes.

3 posted on 08/06/2011 10:03:00 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: NormsRevenge
God bless them and may their families find solice in God as well.

Is it inappropriate for me to put on a foil hat? I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but the last couple of years it seems like up is down and right is left.

4 posted on 08/06/2011 10:03:24 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

*solace


5 posted on 08/06/2011 10:03:58 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How tragic! Prayers and condolences to the families and friends. Great loss for America. God help us.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 10:04:22 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: NormsRevenge

The loss of every American life is a terrible tragedy. That we lost some of the most elite fighters in the world is also a strategic blow to our nation. I have been sick all morning, but upon hearing of the losses of our special forces heroes has impacted me even more sharply.

The last 24 hours are among the worst moments of American history. We are economically and strategically more vulnerable today than we have been during many of our lives.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 10:05:01 AM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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What a horrible loss. May God Bless them and their families.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 10:07:03 AM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Faith

The real shame will be we may not ever get to know who they were for a long time.. we still have active personnel that could be compromised in future missions were they identified.

They are truly ‘Unknown Patriots’ if you will, they are the blood and muscle of our nation and its resolve to ‘Do the right thing’ no matter how many bad guys need to get crunched.. no matter the sacrifices.

A Tragedy, indeed.

Prayers of Peace and Comfort

The Beirut Marines of ‘83 will be there to receive their brothers in arms and share their eternal reward.


9 posted on 08/06/2011 10:07:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is heartbreaking. I honestly don’t know why we are continuing with Afghanistan.

We did what we needed to do after 911, and that was to punish the Taliban. Our men and women did that very effectively. Now, lets declare victory and leave that waste hole.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 10:10:06 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: NormsRevenge

Surely all the leaks from Washington DC, obama “visit” to Ft Campbell and invitations to the WH to meet the SEALs, sensational “insider” press exposes about the tactics and planning and operations behind the bin laden operation.......and obama’s spiking the football....had nothing to do with compromising the operations of these men

nah...


11 posted on 08/06/2011 10:14:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: NormsRevenge

God rest the souls of these fallen heroes.
God give strength and comfort to their families.

12 posted on 08/06/2011 10:15:53 AM PDT by LUV W (RUN, SARAH....R U N!!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I struggle with this myself. But if fight we must, then pull out all the damn stops and let us show not how it’s done, but how Americans do it. No nation building, no nothing. Just limit, limit and limit.

Dear God, what an incalculable loss to our nation - and brought about by 6th century savages, at that!


13 posted on 08/06/2011 10:16:32 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (There is no native criminal class except Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I have a contractor friend over there that would agree. He gets so frustrated trying to actually work with them. It’s such a corrupt country! They screw everything up that they put their hands to. He wishes we were out of there, too.


14 posted on 08/06/2011 10:18:11 AM PDT by LUV W (RUN, SARAH....R U N!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

As a mom of a CH-53 pilot who is stationed in AFG this really brings it pretty close to home.....

I know the attitude of my son and how these pilots feel it is an honor to fly these brave men....

My heart, my prayers go out to all who love and know these warriors and my prayers go out to this country......


15 posted on 08/06/2011 10:19:29 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: NormsRevenge
I bet you EVERY damn dime I have that someone in the WH snitched on the where abouts of the navy seals!! SOB'S!! I loathe the bastard liberal anti-everything having to do with the military ASSHOLES!! SOMEONE SNITCHED!!!
16 posted on 08/06/2011 10:42:27 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Kimmers

We are very proud of your son but much saddened by the loss of his brave comrades.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 10:42:40 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: NormsRevenge

Shot down with what, exactly?


18 posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The loss of these brave men is a tragedy but what is worse is the fact that so many refuse to recognize we are at war and refuse to support them and this great country
19 posted on 08/06/2011 10:47:20 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: RoseofTexas

This does seem too coincidental doesn’t it. If so I hope the pos is tortured to death.


20 posted on 08/06/2011 10:48:46 AM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Are you calling Obama a 6th century savage?

Why didn’t we spread that team out after the high profile hit? Why did we put so many of them in the same chopper?

This is gut wrenching. Any one of these men sacrificed, before this loss, more for our country than Obama ever has or will. Any one of those men are worth more than thousands of Barack Obamas. Any one of those men would have run our nation as President the way someone who loves our nation should run it, and would in turn would have done a better job than Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama.

November 2012, I wish you were tomorrow.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 10:53:54 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: NormsRevenge
I smell a “sucker trap”....a setup to lure a raid, within territory that made the helicopter an easy target...never under estimate your enemy...
22 posted on 08/06/2011 10:53:54 AM PDT by B212
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To: RoseofTexas
Prayers going up to the Lord for our heroes that were killed, and their families.

I bet you EVERY damn dime I have that someone in the WH snitched on the where abouts of the navy seals!!

I pray that you are wrong. We need to see an AAR to see what happened. It is very odd the LZ wasn't secured.

5.56mm

23 posted on 08/06/2011 10:56:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a direct result of Obama's
UBL Press Release identifying the Seals.

24 posted on 08/06/2011 10:57:23 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Panetta is not qualified to be Sec of Defense.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:13 AM PDT by w4women ("All great change begins at the dinner table". Ronald Reagan)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Yep!!


26 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:37 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: NormsRevenge

From what I’ve been reading about that Westboro Church, I would not want to be one of them that shows up at any of their funerals. OTOH I read where those that were involved in the Osama Bin Ladin thing were not in that crash.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:40 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Also, so far not a word from Obama - probably too busy with his b’day BBQ celebrations.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 11:04:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: NormsRevenge

God bless these men and their families.


29 posted on 08/06/2011 11:07:57 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NormsRevenge

seems unlikely to be an accident

taking out osama was unavoidable

taking revenge via leaking location info on the teams could easily have come from the admin

and yes, i believe this admin is that far gone as to work with our enemies directly


30 posted on 08/06/2011 11:08:14 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: NormsRevenge
The real shame will be we may not ever get to know who they were for a long time.. we still have active personnel that could be compromised in future missions were they identified.

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Monday morning, their names, bios and pictures would adorn the front page of The NYT if George W. Bush were still in office.

31 posted on 08/06/2011 11:08:25 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Almost impossible that the Taliban knew who was on that aircraft. CH-47’s are very common platforms in theater and the Talis are going to try to shoot down any one of them they can whether it is carrying Special Operations Troops or a pack of Cub Scouts.

This was probably just bad luck that they were able to down this aircraft. Even the bad guys get lucky sometimes.


32 posted on 08/06/2011 11:11:27 AM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: NormsRevenge

We should not know this. We should not have known about Seal Team Six. The families who will bury their dead will now be an easy target.

Joe Biden should be tried for treason.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 11:13:32 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: greatvikingone

Loud mouth Biden and the O’puppet should both be tried for treason.


34 posted on 08/06/2011 11:17:33 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: XRdsRev

Or it was an inside job, as when the supposed “snitch” blew himself up and killed the CIA station chief.

Ed


35 posted on 08/06/2011 11:33:52 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: NormsRevenge

What is “victory” over there? Killing the Taliban? They are all Taliban over there....or Taliban when it meets their needs.....bring our troops home...not in body bags....what a waste of good men for a bunch of know nothings back over here who want to “fight” from 8,000 miles away....


36 posted on 08/06/2011 11:36:18 AM PDT by There You Go Again
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To: NormsRevenge
The unit should have never been identified after the Bin Laden operation.
RIP ...
37 posted on 08/06/2011 11:44:04 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m just sick about this. I have a young friend who is a SEAL over there right now. Last I heard he was on a different team, but they back and fill sometimes, so who knows...


38 posted on 08/06/2011 11:47:03 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Sir_Ed

Of course we don”t know the whole story yet but if they were “returning” from an operation as has been reported, it is much less likely that it was an inside job.

There are many “possibilities” as to what happened but right now the “probability” is lucky shooting on the part of the enemy.


39 posted on 08/06/2011 11:49:26 AM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am greatly saddened to hear of the loss of these brave patriots and brother’s in arms. They were among the best and brightest of their chosen profession. Our country is poorer to have lost them. Our prayers and most humble condolences to their friends and families.


40 posted on 08/06/2011 11:53:46 AM PDT by KC-10A BOOMER (Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Am I the only one who wonders how it happened that the chopper carrying the same men who took out bin Laden was so precisely targeted? Do you suppose one or more or our Afghan “partners” tipped the Taliban?

Let’s get our folks the hell out of there and let the natives resume what they’ve been doing for over a thousand years: Killing one another.


41 posted on 08/06/2011 11:59:50 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: NormsRevenge

Heartbreaking...

May God give their families comfort.

My son deploys to AF in about 6 weeks. I’m more worried about this deployment (the first with the JEF in office) than his two prior deployments to Iraq. And he was in Haditha and Fallujah!


42 posted on 08/06/2011 12:09:47 PM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: XRdsRev

Gee. we all feel better now.


43 posted on 08/06/2011 12:12:02 PM PDT by ngat
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow!! God Speed our brave warriors, That is horrible, shot down with a RPG no less??? Where was the cover? We do not have no gunships anymore? This is terrible and should NOT have happened ,Ever!


44 posted on 08/06/2011 12:14:23 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Agreed, there are enough 60’s hippie types all over the fed gov’t and especially state dept to have burned them, but then again it could have just been a lucky shot, it does happen.


45 posted on 08/06/2011 12:18:07 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: NormsRevenge

Honoring Those Who Gave All
May they rest in peace
May God comfort their loved ones.

46 posted on 08/06/2011 12:23:09 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: RoseofTexas

16 posts down before someone figured it out. This stinks to high heaven. Chinooks are ubiquitous in Afghanistan, how is it that the one PACKED with the most valuable commodity we have in this war just happens to fly over a Taliban mule at the ready with a stinger (my guess). A lot of money changed hands to get this information. The Saudi’s are (once again) suspect number one.

God Bless America’s warriors, our beloved special forces.

This is our worst day since 9/11 people.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 12:37:52 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: XRdsRev

Exactly my thoughts. Like the scud that took out that Army barracks in GW I, sometimes the bad guys just roll boxcars.

Prayers for all our people.


48 posted on 08/06/2011 12:41:58 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: PogySailor

Prayers for your son’s safety.


49 posted on 08/06/2011 12:54:23 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: NormsRevenge

Joe Biden Opens His Mouth About US Navy SEALs (6/4/11)

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON! I AM SICKENED!!!!


50 posted on 08/06/2011 1:15:23 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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