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Why I voted against the debt deal
The Washington Post ^ | August 2, 2011 | Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK)

Posted on 08/02/2011 10:55:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The good news out of the debt debate is that Washington is now debating how much we can cut instead of how much we can spend. The American people deserve all the credit for forcing that change. Unfortunately, it’s still all talk in Washington. This deal is a victory for politicians but a defeat for families.

In spite of what politicians on both sides are saying, this agreement does not cut any spending over 10 years. In fact, it increases discretionary spending by $830 billion.

I voted against this agreement because it does nothing to address the real drivers of our debt. It eliminates no program, consolidates no duplicative programs, cuts no tax earmarks and reforms no entitlement program. The specter of default or a credit downgrade will still hang over our economy after this deal becomes law.

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1 posted on 08/02/2011 10:55:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If you voted against it, you don’t have anything to explain.

I want to hear from the idiots that actually voted in favor of it.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 10:56:09 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The good news out of the debt debate is that Washington is now debating how much we can cut instead of how much we can spend.

Tom must have missed the speech from the White House today.

3 posted on 08/02/2011 10:57:35 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
this agreement does not cut any spending over 10 years. In fact, it increases discretionary spending by $830 billion.

Over 10 years, it increases total spending by $26000billion.

4 posted on 08/02/2011 10:58:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is there a “yays and nays” posted anywhere?

Thanks.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 10:58:31 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West (this tagline under review))
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To: clintonh8r

The list:

http://www.gop.gov/votes/112/1/690


6 posted on 08/02/2011 11:04:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In other words: The Tea Parties managed to turn the fed/gov spending ship of state around and the RINO/Liberal cabal promptly shifted the engines in reverse.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 11:08:36 AM PDT by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
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To: RinaseaofDs

The only thing I want to hear from those idiots is “I’m sorry” and “I quit”...


8 posted on 08/02/2011 11:10:40 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Old Doc is a waffling dunder head, he is only behind McCain a couple of steps.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 11:15:07 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Obama may not be a natural born citizen, but there is no denying that he is a natural born liar.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Politicians.....pffft.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 11:17:24 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

“I want to hear from the idiots that actually voted in favor of it.”

Bestdealwecouldget! Bestdealwecouldget! Squaaawwk!

Compromise! Compromise! Compromise! Squaaawwk!


11 posted on 08/02/2011 11:26:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: taxcutisapayraise

Perfect description.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Congressman Morgan Griffith (R-VA) issued the following statement today regarding his vote in opposition to the new version of the Budget Control Act of 2011:

“Last week I made the difficult decision to compromise and voted for Speaker Boehner’s plan. While the Boehner plan was not perfect, it was a realistic approach and a step in the right direction. Among other things, it required passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution before a second increase in the debt ceiling.

“However, the legislation before us today was not quite as good. By contrast, today’s deal only requires a Balanced Budget Amendment to be voted on – not passed. I hope the Democrat controlled Senate will pass a Balanced Budget Amendment as a common sense solution to solve America’s debt problem, but it is far from certain. Additionally, there is a provision which, if there is congressional inaction, would allow President Obama to effectively raise the debt ceiling an additional $1.2 trillion, triggering an equal amount of blind cuts.

“After thoroughly reviewing the legislation and hearing from constituents, I came to the conclusion that I should not vote for this bill.”

A good guy, very happy with him.
Mea Culpa: I was one constituent who told him to vote for Boehner’s earlier bill, bad as it was.


13 posted on 08/02/2011 11:35:42 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
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14 posted on 08/02/2011 11:35:54 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: clintonh8r
The Senate Nays:

Ayotte (R-NH)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
DeMint (R-SC)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC) (wow!)
Grassley (R-IA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lee (R-UT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Moran (R-KS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Paul (R-KY)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00123

15 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze

Thanks for posting the nay votes.
Best guess on the last moment flippers would be among these folk:

Gillibrand (D-NY)

Graham (R-SC)

Harkin (D-IA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Nelson (D-NE)


16 posted on 08/02/2011 11:55:32 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Coburn has something to explain to me. He was part of the gang of 6 who effectively killed Cut Cap and Balance, the only real option to fix this economy. Now he’s afraid and getting religion. I don’t think so! If he’s really sorry let him come out and say he was wrong and work to defeat some of the Rino’s he was supporting.


17 posted on 08/02/2011 11:55:54 AM PDT by trustandobey (I STAND WITH ISRAEL " NOT GOING TO HAPPEN")
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To: Tatze; Las Vegas Ron
Thanks.

Surprised that Graham voted opposite his husband...

18 posted on 08/02/2011 12:09:20 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West (this tagline under review))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The real debt crisis is not a debate that has been imposed on Washington by Tea Party activists. It is a crisis Washington has imposed on the American people through laziness, incompetence, dishonesty and political expediency.”

The emperors are butt nekkid. Good for Coburn.

Colonel, USAFR


19 posted on 08/02/2011 12:40:14 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: mrsmith

How come none of these guys says “I voted agains’t this bill because its unconstitutional to create a 12 member committee to originate the financial legislation of the United States”? Not one of them will stand up and denounce what is effectively a Coup de etat of the United States House of Representatives. Now you will have memebers of the Senate sitting on a House Committee.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 12:41:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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