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1 posted on 07/29/2011 8:34:18 AM PDT by rawhide
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Reid can bring it on and call OUR bluff this time. We’ll take it to the people then... next election if need be. (sarcasm, sort of)

Actually, if Reid presents a plan, doesn’t it then have to go back to the House before it could get anywhere else?

That doesn’t seem to fit into any picture at this point.

Either Reid puts some plan up (which I still don’t think he really has) and send it to the House where it will just set until after the Boehner bill is worked out (what good was THAT), OR he puts his bill up and it doesn’t get through the Senate because the Republican Senators know the Boehner bill is forthcoming(what good was THAT)?

I’m not sure how they are trying to work this, and there is probably other trickery going on, but it doesn’t seem to add up on Reid having a real bill right now to present and vote on.

Besides, if he really had one, wouldn’t he have ALREADY presented it? And if he really had one that he thought was better than Boehner’s plan, why would he have waited for Boehner’s plan to begin with and only present his as a last resort? Does Reid himself think his is that much WORSE than Boehner’s that he needed to wait to see if a better bill came around first? :)

Just doesn’t add up.

Senator Reid, put CCB up for discussion, amendments, and vote NOW if you are THAT worried about the time!


45 posted on 07/29/2011 8:59:00 AM PDT by casinva (We are being held hostage by Democrat US Senators who block votes just like the ones in Wisconsin)
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A case each of Kaopectate and bourbon was seen being delivered to Reid's office. Security wouldn't let the razor blades through.
46 posted on 07/29/2011 8:59:06 AM PDT by JPG (Yes she can!)
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The libs go 800+ days without a budget ... and now that incompetent Reid is going to whip something out because he "can't wait" for the House any longer? This ought to be rich. Please do, Reid. I anxiously await reading what should be a great comedy of literature. I hope he does it ... I hope he surprises us with something good ... but I'm not holding my breath.


47 posted on 07/29/2011 8:59:49 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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This is actually good news, force them to show cards.


48 posted on 07/29/2011 9:00:30 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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Reid can’t do this....once it reaches the house this should be totally ignored...


54 posted on 07/29/2011 9:05:25 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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A 'Breaking News' Tweet:

Capitol Telephone Circuits "Near Capacity." They've sent out a system alert. In the Hse, typical call volume is 20K per hour.

55 posted on 07/29/2011 9:05:38 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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The hand-wringing in the GOP plays right into Reid’s hands.

Flame away...but when the House is backed into a corner and forced to vote on Reid’s bill...you’ll realize that even the crappy bill Boehner proposed would have been better.


60 posted on 07/29/2011 9:10:08 AM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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Markets are growing increasingly nervous about the possibility of a default. Reid said that he spoke with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Friday morning and that businesses were unable to borrow money for longer than overnight.

Just heard a reporter from CNBC say that he just got a call from a corporate executive who said this is not true and his company borrowed overnight yesterday in the commercial paper markets with no problems. The democrats are on a fear-mongering campaign spreading tales of gloom, doom, and crisis in an attempt to scare the GOP into accepting a bad debt limit increase bill. Don't believe them. There's more than enough cash flowing into the treasury to pay critical items such as interest on US treasury debt, social security payments, military pay, and to pay for essential departments such as the DOD and DOJ.

What is really behind this fear campaign is the the economy. It's close to zero growth right now, partly because the democrats squandered much of the stimulus bill spending on worthless quick pork projects to repay political allies and give the economy a quick boost ahead of the mid-term elections (...that worked out really well for them in those elections, didn't it?....lol.) Anyway, the democRATs are scared now that a partial government shut-down for a few weeks could tip the economy into negative growth in the 3rd quarter. Well, they should have thought about that when they wrote that dreadful stimulus bill. So that's what's happening, folks. Don't buy all their propaganda about doom, gloom, and default on treasury debt. We're never going to default on treasury debt because there's plenty of hard-earned tax money flowing in to pay interest on treasury debt.

63 posted on 07/29/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by socialism_stinX (We need a decline of statism and a revival of individualism and personal responsibility in America.)
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The media coverage has been all Boehner, all the time the last 24 hours; that’s where the answer is...so now we get Reid trying to steal back the narrative, and Obama giving another useless speech to interject himself into the headlines again. Pure politics.


64 posted on 07/29/2011 9:19:35 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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Still seems like nothing more than a big dog and pony show. If the ultimate end-game is to destroy the economy and re-shape the country as we know it, into a more world friendly nation then they just need to let us default and get the ball rolling on their plans. All of a sudden Reid has a plan?? Come on its just a farce to make the Dems look like the good guys for the zombies of the nation.

I think its part of the plan to make the Tea Party look like the destroyers of the economy by arranging everything, as it is right now, to not have Tea Party fingerprints on any of these bills. Then when they fail and if/when we default they have someone to blame. You don’t think the libs would come down on us even harder than they already do?? They been trying to label us as dissenters and domestic terrorists from day one. The downfall of the economy would play well into that mindset.

I hope its just my tin-foil hat warming up, but doesnt seem to far of a stretch. If not this crisis then something else will come along shortly Im sure.


66 posted on 07/29/2011 9:21:45 AM PDT by eak3
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Harry Reid has no bill. Dems don't want to be on record for anything. They need Boehner's bill for cover. They'll slice it up, pass it and still call it Boehner's bill and still have nothing in writing that can be said to be the Democratic plan.

Pubbie leadership is just plain stupid.

67 posted on 07/29/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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Yep, that is just what our nation needs now, more unrestrained spending, more Obama/Democrat destruction!!! The American people are driving themselves over the cliff with these lunatic Democrat America destroyers. Well....so be it!!!


78 posted on 07/29/2011 9:54:44 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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The three-ring circus continues.

The Reid bill is dead in the house. The Boehner bill is dead in the Senate. There’s no way anything will be passed by next Tues even if all parties worked 24 hrs a day till then.

Meanwhile, as per usual, nobama is MIA.

You may wonder what my personal reaction to this is. Me? I’m buying popcorn futures.


79 posted on 07/29/2011 9:57:44 AM PDT by upchuck (A default is not an economic event. It is a political event. Cut NOW, not in ten years.)
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...he can’t wait any longer for a competing proposal from House Republicans.

What do you call "Cut, Cap & Balance," Harry???

Remember that? You got it EIGHT DAYS ago!

This is YOUR party's first proposal PERIOD.

86 posted on 07/29/2011 10:50:48 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Howard Dean scream here)
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Revenue bills, by the US Constitution, must originate in the House.

What Reid should be doing is amending any bill sent to him by the House. They can amend the House-originated bill into a form unrecognizable from the original, but they do have to start with a House bill. At least that’s my understanding of the Constitution.


89 posted on 07/29/2011 11:49:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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Dims are going to be upset by Tea Partiers in the House. It’s time for Obama and Reid to weigh anchor and sail away.


98 posted on 07/29/2011 1:30:38 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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The Capitol should be surrounded by pitchforks and hammer handles ‘bout now...


102 posted on 07/29/2011 4:10:41 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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What if a deadline passes and nothing haopens?


103 posted on 07/29/2011 4:11:24 PM PDT by hattend (As always... FUJM.)
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“Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said he’s bringing a bill to raise the U.S. debt ceiling and cut the deficit to the Senate floor Friday, and that he can’t wait any longer for a competing proposal from House Republicans.”

Not apparently see the house proposals has he has been given 3 or 4 such bills so far.


110 posted on 07/29/2011 8:36:24 PM PDT by Monorprise
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Just tell him its DOA in the House.


112 posted on 07/30/2011 7:11:28 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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