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Obama Talked About "Gun Tracing" in 2009
Townhall ^ | 7/28/11 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/28/2011 9:18:09 AM PDT by Nachum

Yesterday during testimony on Capitol Hill, we heard Former ATF Special Agent in Charge William Newell admit he was in contact with White House National Security staffer Kevin O'Reilly about Operation Fast and Furious as early as September 2010. Newell also admitted that the DHS, IRS, DEA, ATF, ICE and the Obama Justice Department were all heavily involved and were full partners in coming up with the concept and execution of Operation Fast and Furious. Attorney General Eric Holder and President Obama still deny authorizing the lethal program, despite President Obama specifically asking Holder to conduct a complete review

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1 posted on 07/28/2011 9:18:17 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 07/28/2011 9:24:03 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Obama and Holder will cover each other’s butts...Obama OWNS Holder now!!!


3 posted on 07/28/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

If we still had an honest press in America, the chorus for an independent prosecutor would be deafening.....Nixon didn’t get anybody killed in Watergate yet the media ran him out of town....Obama/Holder are responsible for numerous lives lost in both Mexico and the USA, and yet the media is in denial....


4 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:01 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: Nachum
DHS, IRS, DEA, ATF, ICE and the Obama Justice Department

I would just be guessing but a mass firing with any and all agency rehiring ban of, oh, a third of "all of the above" focusing on a total flush of their upper management could have a "positive effect."

Just a guess...

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5 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:11 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Nachum
If this had gone well can't you just see zero standing in front of the cameras with his nose in the air, in full grandiose display, saying “I decided....at my direction....I gave the order.... I I I...my my my”

Of course now he will have never heard of it - it's all someone else’s fault.

6 posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:11 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Sacajaweau

“Obama and Holder will cover each other’s butts...”

Among other things.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 9:30:04 AM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: Nachum

Pffft...Obamajaad and his pals Holder, Hillary, Panetta, Napitolano, his cadre of commies planned, ordered this operation, and funded it 3 times with stimulus cash. Then they got up in front of microphones and not only bragged about it, but took it a step further to accuse American citizens of having caused the problems in Mexico, when they had shipped enough guns in there themselves to arm a Marine batallion.

Their attempts to lie about it and avoid some serious jail time is no more or less than to be expected.

There already is enough evidence to put them up for hanging, but does anybody in DC have the guts to do it?

They’ve caused the murder of Mexican Nationals and Americans with this disaster. What massive disaster is going to cause American citizens to even get up enough guts to do something about it?


8 posted on 07/28/2011 9:30:57 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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AG Holder discussed "Project Gun Runner" in April 2009 in Mexico.
FR POSTED Friday, July 08, 2011 by Glock The Vote
SOURCE: DOJ release | April 2, 2009

US Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009 Remarks as prepared for delivery.

ATTY GEN HOLDER: First, let me express my thanks to (Mexican) Attorney General Medina Mora and Secy of Government Gomez Mont for making this conference possible. This is my first trip to another country as Attorney General.

I wanted to come to Mexico to deliver a single message: We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in this fight against the narcotics cartels. The United States shares responsibility for this problem and we will take responsibility by joining our Mexican counterparts in every step...

And, together, we will win – thanks in large part to the courage of my Mexican colleagues here today, who are on the front lines every day, and with whom I am proud to collaborate.

The topic that has been addressed over the past two days could not be more important – the development of an arms trafficking prosecution and enforcement strategy on both sides of the border.

I would like to thank the Mexican and U.S. experts who have worked so hard on this issue. On our side, Secretary Napolitano and I are committed to putting the resources in place to increase our attack on arms trafficking into Mexico.

Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion.

DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail. But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone. Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel.

This is the type of full-bore, prosecution-driven approach that the U.S. Department of Justice took to dismantle La Cosa Nostra – once the most powerful organized crime group operating in the United States. With partners like those we have here today, I am confident that together, we will defeat these narcotics cartels in exactly the same way. I am proud to stand with you, and to join you in this fight.

Thank you again for inviting me here. ####

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REFERENCE----WHAT IS THE MERIDA INITIATIVE? The US Congress passed legislation in late June 2008 to provide Mexico with $400 million and Central American countries with $65 million that year alone, for the specific purpose of "fighting drug wars." The initiative was announced 22 Oct 2007 and signed into law June 30, 2008.

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REFERENCE America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?
FoxNews.com | May 31, 2011 | William La Jeunesse
FR Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 by neverdem

If you ever watch video or look at pictures of Mexican drug wars, you see some pretty heavy weapons. It is a war being waged with rockets and plastic explosives, not pea shooters and Saturday Night Specials.

Consider these incidents:- A M26A2 fragmentation grenade used against a U.S. Consulate in Mexico in 2008 - Explosive projectiles and 21 grenades found during a raid in Guadalupe - An unexploded grenade and pull ring used to attack a TV station in Monterrey - Automatic weapons, including U.S.-made M16s, found at a cartel crime scene in May 2009- U.S. military-issued ammunition found in a cartel raid in Reynosa in November 2008. You can't buy this stuff at a U.S. gun store. So where do the cartels get it?

According to leaked diplomatic cables, there are three sources.

1. US Defense Department shipments to Latin America, known and tracked by the US State Department as "foreign military sales."

2. Weapons ordered by the Mexican government, tracked by the State Department as "direct commercial sales."

3. Aging, but plentiful arsenals of military weapon stores in Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

Even though these facts were well-known by the Obama administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder, it blamed much of the violence in Mexico on US gun shops. "More than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our border," President Obama said in February 2009.

That was contested, but few listened to gun store owners and former vets like Lynn Kartchner, owner of Allsafe Security, a gun shop in Douglas, Ariz...(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com

9 posted on 07/28/2011 9:31:58 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Nachum

sfl


10 posted on 07/28/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Nachum
Behold the reason for all of the drama over the debt ceiling. This is a huge story that should be at the head of every newscast. But it is not. Important stories like the survival of two goldfish make the news. Republicans are labeled as dictators.

Obama has blood on his hands - where is Cindy Sheehan and her smelly, muffin-topped crew?

11 posted on 07/28/2011 9:34:56 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Nachum
Attorney General Eric Holder and President Obama still deny authorizing the lethal program, despite President Obama specifically asking Holder to conduct a complete review of current gun enforcement policies during a joint press conference in Mexico City with Mexico President Felipe Calderon in April 2009.

Maybe I've missed it, but where is the outrage from Calderon? I've had a gut feeling that he's just as "informed" as Obama about this whole corrupt, evil mess.

12 posted on 07/28/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Liz
La Cosa Nostra

Interesting how times change. That used to be very politically incorrect, using the Italian.
13 posted on 07/28/2011 9:43:23 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: TLI
Kevin O'Reilly, a top level staffer at the White House, knows "who" ~ and the sooner he advises Issa the more likely he is to make it through this critical point alive.

Right now I'd usually be checking out the "safe houses" around here, but their owners cashed in before the housing crash 3 years back so I have no idea where they've arranged for the replacements.

Which is to say if any Freepers know of a "safe house" for The Agency, or FBI, or maybe another agency, keep your eyes on it. Do you see any White House folks getting hustled in there?

14 posted on 07/28/2011 9:50:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum

Put me on that please.


15 posted on 07/28/2011 10:09:21 AM PDT by Voice of Reason1 ("Absolute power corrupts absolutely” Lord Acton 1887)
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To: Nachum

Interesting how whistle blowers have become emboldened to come forward to report on current operations just on a “I think it is wrong” attitude. Apparently, this and past administrations have pushed people over the edge to take outrageous government behavior public.

Just today NASA release a report on satellite data showing the earth releases more heat than originally shown on global warming enthusiasts models. NOAA will have to backtrack now.

Congress will have to be replaced as a whole if you want to gain ethics for the future since not one bankster has been prosecuted to end up in jail for their crimes. And that is not even asking for very much unless you are asking it from the current Congress.


16 posted on 07/28/2011 10:09:42 AM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Nachum
Obama: “Last point I would make, is that there are going to be some opportunities where I think we can build some strong consensus I’ll give you one example and that is the issue of gun tracing, the tracing of bullets and ballistics and gun information that had been used in major crimes.”

It certainly looked like it was on his mind. I wonder what else we’ll find as they investigate this further.

17 posted on 07/28/2011 10:12:38 AM PDT by Voice of Reason1 ("Absolute power corrupts absolutely” Lord Acton 1887)
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It certainly looked like it was on his mind. I wonder what else we’ll find as they investigate this further.

Cloward-Piven against the Second Amendment.

18 posted on 07/28/2011 10:15:13 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Nachum
Gunwalker and Fast & Furious Updates: Holder, DOJ, FBI, Operation Castaway, ATF

Email Confirms ‘Gunwalker’ Known Throughout Justice Department The October 27, 2009 email from ATF Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) William Newell regarded a Southwest Border Strategy Group meeting that focused on Fast and Furious. It contained a laundry list of high ranking Justice Department officials that attended the meeting, including:

* Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer, * Kenneth Melson, Acting Director, ATF * William Hoover, Acting Deputy Director, ATF * Michele Leonhart, Administrator, DEA * Robert Mueller, Director FBI

Four other Justice Department directors or their representatives came from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), Bureau of Prisons (BOP), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), and the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA). The chair of the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee (AGAC) also attended the session. Their names were redacted in the released document. U.S. attorneys for all four southwest border states also attended...


19 posted on 07/28/2011 10:40:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (No dark sarcasm in the press room ... Hey!, Barry!, leave them bills alone.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

FOR REFERENCE:

DAVID CODREA'S PROJECT GUNWALKER

A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

FULL TRANSCRIPT OF JULY 26 GUNWALKER HEARING & VIDEO


20 posted on 07/28/2011 11:19:30 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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