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1 posted on 07/21/2011 7:26:17 AM PDT by blam
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On the bright side, the NYT and Goldman Sachs may go broke. Wishful thinking, I know....


2 posted on 07/21/2011 7:28:13 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Kartographer
Fed Preparing For US Default Says Plosser
3 posted on 07/21/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

If it’s inevitable, just bring it on and get it over with.


4 posted on 07/21/2011 7:30:50 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: blam

Today, the market is preparing for doom with a pretty good opening hour rally (Dow up 210, S&P up almost 16). Flight to stocks?


5 posted on 07/21/2011 7:32:12 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: blam

If treasuries were sold off for pennies on the dollar due to a rating change (which I doubt will happen as the rating agencies are brought-and-paid-for poodles of the Treasury) then the dollar would massively devalue.

And 70% of USD are held as foreign assets.

So it’s not a good idea to ‘de-risk’ by holding fiat of any kind - including the CHF. It’s all colored paper.

Sensible funds would buy hard assets and precious metals.


7 posted on 07/21/2011 7:34:46 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: blam

And the dow is getting very close to 13,000??? Go figure.

It must be a suckers market? But then again, that is what I thought back when the dow was at 10,000.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 7:34:59 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: blam
Any "default" would likely only be a technical default, namely a delay in the timeliness of payments (a few months at most), but not an actual loss in payments themselves. In a rational market, this would mean Treasuries would only lose at most a few percentage points. But since there is no such thing as a rational market, there would indeed be a huge sell-off. Combined with the over-leveraged Manhattan banking system, it might be unpleasant, but I doubt it would be worse than 2008.

Hedge funds, proprietary trading firms, and other nimble players would swoop in to buy the overly-cheap Treasuries. These players' risk management practices are far better than those of the large banks, which admittedly isn't saying much at all.

Mutual funds would sell off into the down market, destroying client capital and once again showing us what an utter scam the mutual fund industry is.

Upside: US government wouldn't be able to do any bailouts.

9 posted on 07/21/2011 7:36:06 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: blam

up 130 points this morning.


10 posted on 07/21/2011 7:36:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: blam
Here's What "Selective Default" Actually Means

This morning, reports emerged from Europe that "selective default" was on the table for Greece.

A sovereign nation enters "selective default" when it elects to delay repayment of some of its financial obligations while fully honoring others.

11 posted on 07/21/2011 7:39:29 AM PDT by blam
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This crap shoot called the market is just that. It is just kids playing roulette and when crap hits the fan the market will crash with America.


12 posted on 07/21/2011 7:39:29 AM PDT by Logical me
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We are not going to default. This is just more pimping for their boy Obama. It will continue until or unless he determines there are more votes to be had by throwing them under the bus than by taking their money.


15 posted on 07/21/2011 7:44:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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DJI 12,728.95 Up +157.04 +1.25% Really?.............

16 posted on 07/21/2011 7:46:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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“Because nobody knows what is going to happen, nobody knows how to prepare.”

Food, water, ammo, fuel, batteries, TP, bag silver, etc. These boys need to check out prepper sites.

Cash and bonds? Rolled up and dipped into paraffin for use as fire starters, maybe. Weren’t these guys ever in the Scouts?


19 posted on 07/21/2011 8:01:35 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: blam

They have to keep the Dow up or they’ll lose all their government retiree voters (and eventual government retiree voters).


20 posted on 07/21/2011 8:03:09 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!!


21 posted on 07/21/2011 8:08:10 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

Not just banks. Large companies are stockpiling cash right now.


24 posted on 07/21/2011 9:00:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: blam

Expanding the debt limit means more Fed money propping up Wall Street, keeping the market safe for whatever elitists that are left to play with it.


25 posted on 07/21/2011 9:03:06 AM PDT by pallis
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Does this article have any legs or is it just the writer’s opinion? Are hedge funds making significant shifts to stockpile cash in anticipation? I’d appreciate some secondary corroboration from FReepers if they know about this. Thanks for posting it. - OB1


28 posted on 07/21/2011 9:53:55 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Financial Repression.......it answers a lot of questions.....read about it on FinancialSense.com.)
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To: blam

We will not default.

The US Treasury takes in roughly $200B/month. Figure about $51B for SSI and Medicare payments, about $6B for defense, about $30B in debt interest, and about $71B for all other essential services.

The “default” is a scare tactic that is being used by anyone concerned with their political career, rather than with what is best for America.


29 posted on 07/21/2011 4:21:24 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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