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Bad news for Gary Glenn: Pete Hoekstra could challenge Debbie Stabenow after all
Mlive.com ^ | July 19th 2011 | Susan J. Demas

Posted on 07/19/2011 5:07:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek

Former U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra apparently has had a change of heart and is once again thinking about challenging U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Lansing).

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: debbiestabenow; petehoekstra; senate
Pete has his RINO streak but he's well to the right of McCain and Graham. He'll give Stabenow a real fight.
1 posted on 07/19/2011 5:07:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: cripplecreek

Hoekstra is a world class A-hole.


2 posted on 07/19/2011 5:12:48 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

Then he’ll do a fine job of “evacuating” Debbie Stabenow.


3 posted on 07/19/2011 5:17:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sbMKE

He may be an a-hole, but :e’s our a-hole. And God knows he is better than Stabenow.


4 posted on 07/19/2011 5:17:28 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: cripplecreek
Debbie Stabenow is the poster child for everything that's wrong with America, even more so than Obama.

I had to get that off my chest. I feel better now.

5 posted on 07/19/2011 5:19:30 PM PDT by Batrachian (Prepare for four more years - unless Perry is nominated.)
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To: mwl8787

LOL exactly.

Plus there is exactly zero chance he’ll ever run for president.


6 posted on 07/19/2011 5:20:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

DO IT ! DO IT ! DO IT ! DO IT ! DO IT ! DO IT !

Take the dangerously incompetent bitch down.


7 posted on 07/19/2011 5:33:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
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8 posted on 07/19/2011 5:37:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sbMKE

None of your business since your in Peeeewaukee.


9 posted on 07/19/2011 5:38:30 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

I would probably pick someone else but from a completely subjective standpoint, Hoekstra is probably the one who can seriously challenge the bloated one.


10 posted on 07/19/2011 5:42:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

I hope he does


11 posted on 07/19/2011 5:45:23 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: crz

Hoekstra has personally pursued policies and subsidies that have been damaging to my livelihood and to my effort to support employment in West Michigan. And his staffers have thumbed their noses at me, because he gets more campaign cash from the competitor. He’s a cynical and arrogant SOB, a DC creature not a West Michigan guy.

He was a congressman for sale and he’ll be worse if elected as a prince of DC. He’s certainly not one of the good guys.


12 posted on 07/19/2011 5:46:28 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: nuconvert

Chances are that it will mean two open house seats in Michigan next year. One firmly democrat and one firmly GOP but we might be able to push Hoekstra’s seat to the right some more.


13 posted on 07/19/2011 5:48:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sbMKE
And his staffers have thumbed their noses at me, because he gets more campaign cash from the competitor.

So what you're saying is that you would be happy with him if you could afford to buy him?
14 posted on 07/19/2011 5:52:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

You would think the Michigan Republicans could come up with a much better candidate. Hoekstra is defense/military guy, not an economy or jobs guy.

I’d hope that one of the other guys from the Mackinac Island set - a Dick DeVos or someone of that ilk would step up and run Stabenau out.

For all of the union and Democrat clout in Michigan, there are also some serious heavyweights in the Republican camp - especially if you could draw someone from outside the political class (see Rick Snyder, or Ron Johnson in Wisconsin). A guy like that, speaking with credibility, would have serious appeal against a partisan hack like Stabenau.

Hoekstra is a retread. A guy who couldn’t manage his way past a statewide primary for the Governor’s office against a relative unknown who touted himself as “the nerd.” He may be the best of the batch right now, but voters will remember him as a guy who lost not 2 years ago, and that makes him a liability. A guy who is dependent on the government payroll because he doesn’t have enough DC connections or alliances to make it on the outside.


15 posted on 07/19/2011 5:58:50 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: cripplecreek
Dangerously Incompetent

*Needs some fixing*

Dangerously Deranged and Uglified Incompetent

Better.....

:-)

16 posted on 07/19/2011 6:02:10 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

I think Hoekstra will have what it takes to be nasty because you just know that Stabenow plans a filthy race.


17 posted on 07/19/2011 6:16:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: sbMKE

Nice yardstick!
Your ox was gored, so he’s an ass.....

Pete has done more for the Military and Intel community over the last dozen years, than any 20 congresscritters.
He’s supported critical programs when they were on the block and he’s killed failing programs when the customer and contractors couldn’t perform.
Like it or not, those assessments were based on performance, not political payoffs.


18 posted on 07/19/2011 6:51:58 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: cripplecreek; Clintonfatigued

It would be a bonus to challenge for and win this seat.


19 posted on 07/19/2011 7:07:51 PM PDT by randita (All we are sayin' is give peas a chance...)
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To: G Larry

I’m not talking about selling military work - I’m talking about the congressman meddling in private markets via government intervention.

While I don’t question his past support of intel and military, I don’t have a very high opinion of the man’s integrity and I also believe that we need a candidate that is focused on job creation, the economy and the debt, not a single-issue military/defense/foreign affairs candidate for Senate. Levin is already the senior senator from Michigan on that beat.


20 posted on 07/19/2011 7:17:33 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: cripplecreek

I do not donate to politicians. Period. Never have. Not one cent.


21 posted on 07/19/2011 7:18:47 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: randita; cripplecreek; grellis; Darren McCarty; perfect_rovian_storm; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Hoekstra may change his mind and become a candidate. In related news, Debbie Stabenow’s popularity is falling again. I had just about written this race off.


22 posted on 07/19/2011 7:51:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: sbMKE

Levin’s a communist and we need an American to be the MAJORITY SASC Lead. Do you suppose a couple of Military contracts would be job creators for contractors in MI?


23 posted on 07/19/2011 8:16:32 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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24 posted on 07/19/2011 9:38:43 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: sbMKE

What do you mean, “we need a candidate”? Is Wiskeehnsin now Really West Michigan or something?


25 posted on 07/19/2011 9:48:46 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

She is another fat Commie like Sotomayor, Kagan and the mental midget Babs Boxer....


26 posted on 07/19/2011 11:43:20 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting. Gary Glenn is a FReeper.


27 posted on 07/19/2011 11:46:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.')
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To: sbMKE

Even if he is, who cares if he can do what needs to be done for Michigan.

Stabenow may indeed be a very nice lady but she’s “dangerously incompetent”.

This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco. This ain’t no foolin’ around.


28 posted on 07/20/2011 2:28:20 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

THanks grellis!


29 posted on 07/20/2011 3:09:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: equaviator
Stabenow may indeed be a very nice lady

you've never met her, have you?
30 posted on 07/20/2011 4:42:56 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: sbMKE

you can’t say hoekstra’s a re-tread, then suggest devos. he lost the gov election too.

i agree we can do better, but we don’t have much to work with. people that we like and would support either haven’t announced or are unlikely to win.


31 posted on 07/20/2011 4:48:21 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: absolootezer0
we don’t have much to work with. people that we like and would support either haven’t announced or are unlikely to win.

Exactly. I'd like to see McCotter run but he would have an uphill climb since most Michiganders had never heard of him prior to a couple of years ago. Its unfortunate but we really do have very few people who could mount a serious challenge to either Stabenow or Levin.

Also I like the idea of replacing Hoekstra with a more conservative representative in the house.
32 posted on 07/20/2011 9:08:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: EternalVigilance

What little I know about Gary Glenn makes him sound like a great potential replacement in the house for Hoekstra. He’d need to get himself into that district and live there for a while.


33 posted on 07/20/2011 9:11:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

The Constitution does not require that the candidate live in the congressional district. Just in the state.


34 posted on 07/20/2011 9:17:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.')
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35 posted on 07/20/2011 9:18:06 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: cripplecreek
I'd like to see McCotter run but he would have an uphill climb since most Michiganders had never heard of him prior to a couple of years ago.

McCotter needs to keep up his run for presidency. i think that'll draw a large number of MI voters away from romney, splitting the moderate vote, and give a conservative a chance of taking MI in the primary.

besides, we don't need another pro big labour bailout granting type in the senate.
36 posted on 07/20/2011 9:23:01 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: absolootezer0

No, I haven’t. That’s why I said she MAY be a very nice lady...However, she may actually be a real C***.


37 posted on 07/20/2011 9:27:16 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator
However, she may actually be a real C***.

She is that. On steroids. She got her start here in Lansing as a county commissioner, then worked through the state houses...much like Little Virg Bernero. Same personalities, actually.

38 posted on 07/20/2011 10:03:24 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: cripplecreek

If this were two years down the road we might have had one that could fit the tea. A couple of the freshmen who won the last election for the house come to mind.


39 posted on 07/20/2011 2:11:27 PM PDT by crz
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To: sbMKE

This is pretty good. A guy from Wisconsin whining about a guy running in Michigan when Wisconsin HAD two of the worst slime balls in the history of this nation in the senate. At least they managed to get rid of one...for now.

Does Kohl and Feingold ring a bell?

If I were you, I’d tend to my business in my own state and get rid of Kohl.


40 posted on 07/20/2011 2:16:53 PM PDT by crz
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To: cripplecreek

Unless they amend the Constitution.

Personally, I would support an amendment that replaced the natural-born citizen requirement with a requirement that the president have been a U.S. citizen for at least 35 years; since the minimum age for presidents is 35, no natural-born citizen would be ineligible after the amendment that wasn’t ineligible prior to it, and it would allow voters to elect as president persons who became U.S. citizens as children or young adults. I mean, how old was Hoekstra when his parents moved to Michigan from the Netherlands, 3 years old or so? He’s been a Michigander practically his entire life.


41 posted on 07/20/2011 9:01:33 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: cripplecreek

I assume that the open Dem seat is the MI-05 long held by Kildee (which I hope that conservative Dem Jim Barcia seeks and wins, since God knows no Republican can win there). What’s the open GOP seat, McCotter’s MI-09? It’s pretty marginal right now, and probably won’t be 100% safe even after redistricting.

Hoekstra’s MI-02 is the most heavily GOP seat in the state and was won by (surprise) an Ottawa County conservative in 2010 (but not by the ex-NFL player who appeared to be the frontrunner).


42 posted on 07/20/2011 9:08:18 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: cripplecreek

Dr. Robert Steele the real tea party candidate!

All of a sudden Pete Hoekstra is running I wonder why is it to keep Steele from growing?
Steele got little traction in 2010

http://www.google.com/search?q=Dr.+Robert+Steele+YOUTUBE&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7RNTN_en


43 posted on 07/20/2011 10:26:14 PM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: crz; sbMKE; cripplecreek; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; randita; ...

I think this is a great development because Hoekstra can win while it’s unlikely the other Republicans can.

(Now to wait for some Michigander who thinks Hoekstra is a contemptible RINO to tell me to shut up because I’m from Illinois. That would be some irony.)

The Senate majority is everybody’s buissness.
Every Senator has power over every American. (And sbMKE would have every right to his opinion even if that wasn’t the case. This is America.)

“Oh you aren’t from (state) so shut up” is a tremendously lame argument. So is “oh your state has (ahole democrat senator) so shut up and clean your own mess”. I didn’t vote for any of the asshats in my state and I take serious umbrage when someone tries to imply that it’s somehow my fault they were elected. I guessing sbMKE didn’t vote for Kohl.

I don’t know you but I want to think you are better than this.


44 posted on 07/22/2011 4:45:50 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I think Hoekstra has a RINO streak but he’s well to the right of McCain and not even on the same planet as Stabenow.

He’s well known and can win. Its an OK tradeoff.


45 posted on 07/22/2011 5:35:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Impy

I’ve always like Hoekstra, and have never noticed a liberal streak in him. He’s a first-tier opponent to Stabenow, maybe not quite as strong a statewide candidate as Mike Rogers or Candace Miller, but excellent nonetheless.


46 posted on 07/22/2011 6:51:37 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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