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Some in Europe Wrongly Blame Bush for the U.S. Debt Crisis
Human Events ^ | July 17, 2011 | Rachel Marsden

Posted on 07/17/2011 5:59:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If online comments and e-mails from friends are any indication, the overwhelming feeling about the American debt crisis here in Europe is that if Obama is now in a position of having to raise the debt ceiling or face default, the crisis can only be traced back to George W. Bush.

People across the pond are, in part, blaming Bush’s post-9/11 era military funding—yet somehow the phrase “overstretched Greek army” doesn’t exist to explain how that country managed to economically implode.

While there’s little economic return in the limited act of paying for a soldier to travel to Afghanistan or Iraq and using the finest technological equipment to shoot a terrorist in the face, there can be great economic return on the overall outcome of war. World War II cost more than $900 billion in 1945 (a third more than the most expensive post-9/11 year, at just less than $650 billion in 2010), yet the surge in military spending led to an economic boom. The Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe increased America’s presence and economic/trade opportunities in the region. Increased presence of military bases caused trade to build up around them. Likewise, after a period of Carter-era military neglect and economic stagnation, the Reagan era saw a Cold War military buildup and an increase in economic growth.

Who can argue that the fall of the Berlin Wall wasn’t beneficial for American business and trade? Wars are only bad for the economy if the person in charge has no idea how to parlay it into opportunity. Bush had a historical sense of what military action in the Middle East would mean. As he explained in an interview earlier this year, his father pointed out to him the conversion of the Japanese from enemy to ally—a shift that was catalyzed by war. It’s not hard to believe that Bush could envision the “long game,” but tougher to imagine the current White House occupant seeing around his Nobel Peace Prize for Being a Cool Bro to the lasting peace, prosperity and stability achieved through military victory.

Industry builds up around military efforts. Someone has to make the drones, the guns and the missiles. It’s probably not the most politically correct thing to admit, but there’s much more of a long-term financial return involved in a terrorist being blown up than there is in blowing stimulus funds to pay someone to plug a pothole in a road.

The Chinese have said recently that America can’t expect to keep up its international defense and security spending, at about 20% of the annual budget, all while they keep increasing theirs. How convenient for them! Perhaps we should have also taken Gorbachev’s advice on defense spending during the Cold War. Maybe America should pull back and just let the Chinese take over the market for high-tech defense-product development and exports entirely?

Europeans also fault Bush for deregulating Wall Street—another myth. If anything, deregulation can be traced back to Clinton and Carter. Clinton’s Financial Services Modernization Act allowed previously separated investment and commercial banks to finally merge with each other in a giant deregulatory orgy. It was Texan Republican Phil Gramm and other Republicans who tried during the Clinton era to scrap Jimmy Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, which forced banks to give loans to people based on important criteria such as skin color rather than silly things like the ability to make payments.

Some say that Bush had a whole eight years to scrap the Carter-Clinton programs. Sure, and just imagine what the reaction would have been had he tried to take the mortgages and lines of credit right out of the hands of minorities in the interest of imposing fiscal responsibility.

Bush did try to increase regulation of the financial sector through the Sarbanes-Oxley law, increasing financial reporting and auditing, but he can hardly be blamed for the fact that people were set on gorging themselves on the full benefit of the Clinton-Carter, debt-friendly provisions.

For those who argue that Obama is merely a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time when the till ran empty, it might be easier to believe that if he’d remove his hands from it for even a second and stop crying for refills.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Japan; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; bushesfault; debt; defense; deficit; europe; europeanunion; obama; spending
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1 posted on 07/17/2011 5:59:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"...For those who argue that Obama is merely a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time when the till ran empty, it might be easier to believe that if he’d remove his hands from it for even a second and stop crying for refills..."

People are going to believe what they want to believe, or what the MSM tells them, right or wrong. But this last line was a nugget of truth, indeed.

2 posted on 07/17/2011 6:02:33 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
46% of our current 235 year U.S. Dept has occurred in the last 3 years under Comrade Obama.
3 posted on 07/17/2011 6:02:40 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Could you image what would happen in this country if we had a media that actually told the truth and were not only for the liberals?


4 posted on 07/17/2011 6:04:15 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Let's face it, eurotrash don't know squat about the US. All they know is what CNN International spews, and that won't get them from here to there most of the time.
5 posted on 07/17/2011 6:05:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

CNN International, the ‘bash Bush all the time station’.


6 posted on 07/17/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Black community in the US believes the same thing. I still hear “Bush’s Fault” even now. A lot of people just don’t know how to think logically or look up information.


7 posted on 07/17/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

Bush’s Fault!

PING!


8 posted on 07/17/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (July 23, 2017 - This is Ellis Wyatt. I am on strike.)
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To: Linda Frances

they are not for “liberals”. There is no liberty in their souls. They are for hard core leftist who will destroy our constitution.

I am sick of the misnomer liberal. What do libertarians have in common with leftists? What do leftist have in common with conservatives and libertarians?

The answer is nothing. They have stolen the word that is based on freedom - liber - and corrupted it.

There is nothing but death, chains, prison camps and death draped over the left. They use liberal as a sheep’s skin covering their ravenous wolf hearted souls.


9 posted on 07/17/2011 6:08:55 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


10 posted on 07/17/2011 6:15:19 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Since 1980 there has not been one three month period in which GDP expanded faster than new debt did, except during the collapse itself.!

Our economy is built on debt; thank you Republicans and Democrats.


11 posted on 07/17/2011 6:19:48 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Wonderful statistic. But the facts are Bush was a principle player in both the housing market collapse-he never materially addressed sub-prime lending—and he created the stimulus monster.

But his biggest fault is he set the stage for the Usurping Kenyan Marxist to occupy the WH. Let me count some of the ways:

1. He and his father’s New World Order nonsense opened the door to the Marxists to trash our Constitution.
2. He stood there like a Shmoo and allowed the demrats to frame the arguments.
3. NAFTA has turned out to be a very sour lemon.
4. He failed miserably dealing with illegal immigration.
5. He did the right thing going to war against Islamoterrorism, then did not have the courage to finish it off.
6. He ceded US sovereignty to the UN when he asked it for permission to go to war against the people who attacked the US.


12 posted on 07/17/2011 6:50:53 PM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
What we have here is a failure to sufficiently rob the American people to support our profligate spending.

We won't make that mistake again.

Now, hands up and hand over the cash...the earrings too, lady...now the wedding rings...

13 posted on 07/17/2011 6:56:10 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (White Hetero Able Male (WHAM) a.k.a. NOT Holder's people)
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To: dools0007world
Your six points regarding Bush II are spot on. I agree entirely.

Those that see Bush II as some sort of conservative hero are blind.

14 posted on 07/17/2011 7:32:14 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Cain’t blame Saint George II !


15 posted on 07/17/2011 7:38:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

... patron saint of the Inarticulate...


16 posted on 07/17/2011 7:40:35 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Leaning Right; dools0007world; Revolting cat!

Bush and his spending are now spilled milk. There is no use crying over it. We need spending cut now and we need our house in order.

Obama and the no budget democrats have been out of control and it has to be fixed.

Stop whining about Bush II.


17 posted on 07/17/2011 7:57:14 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Bull, jorge had the 357 at the temple of the auto unions and he would not pull the trigger, instead he game them mouth to mouth.
18 posted on 07/17/2011 8:10:21 PM PDT by org.whodat
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19 posted on 07/17/2011 8:13:37 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bush a RINO but small time compared to the people still in the Houses and that African Commie Azz in the oval office,when it comes to spending money, they spent more than anyone in history!!

Bush ,the POS RINO, split the Party with his Amnesty Bullchit and Drug Buddy Sutton protecting Drug Smugglers! Not mentioning his War bungling!


20 posted on 07/17/2011 8:19:13 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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