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Saland: Family influenced Marriage Equality vote
Register Star ^ | July 14, 2011 | Jamie Larson

Posted on 07/16/2011 5:44:51 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

Albany, NY - Breaking pack from the vast majority of his fellow senate Republicans, Saland’s deliberation over and eventual deciding “vote of conscience” on the Marriage Equality act June 24, has brought the media-shy legislator to national and even global attention.

Saland’s vote to support gay marriage in New York did not come easy. Throughout his district and beyond, passionate constituents on both sides of the contentious issue applied overwhelming pressure in an attempt to get Saland to “do the right thing.”

“It was a very difficult and anguishing process,” Saland said, estimating that he received anywhere from 100,000 to 150,000 correspondences from constituents on the issue, split about evenly between those for and against.

“Towards the end we were getting 100 phone calls an hour, all against the backdrop of one of the most intense sessions I’ve seen,” he said. “The actual casting of the vote marked the end of an intense and emotional journey.

“There came a point where I realized that civil unions couldn’t do it,” Saland continued. “The question became, how do you provide equal rights without providing a right to marriage?”

In Wednesday’s interview Saland stated that as far as the need for marriage equality was concerned earlier in his thinking he had a very traditional view of the family structure. But it was his own family who, in large part, convinced the senator that supporting equality was the right thing to do. Saland’s wife Linda has been a long-time supporter of gay marriage, and as he deliberated, her input was ever-present, to the point where one day, shortly before the vote, he put up his hands and said “enough.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; nysenate; rino; saland
Gay marriage is now the law of the land in NY State, all due to the missing convictions of this hen pecked RINO. I don't see how hiding behind her apron strings gives him political cover.
1 posted on 07/16/2011 5:44:55 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

He can “poor pitiful me” all he wants. It doesn’t change what he’s done, and it cannot garner him sympathy with his constituents, nor with all the rest who will be affected by this awful, evil deed. And that’s aside from the fact that he, like all of us, will one day face Our Lord in judgement.

There was a time in my life when I missed living in New York (lived upstate decades ago). Not anymore.


2 posted on 07/16/2011 5:50:45 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

What are going to do after public service, Steve? You might want to give it some real thought starting now.


3 posted on 07/16/2011 5:54:06 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
What are going to do after public service, Steve?

He has more than thirty years in state office and has a law practice.

4 posted on 07/16/2011 6:00:30 AM PDT by decimon
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To: sayuncledave
How can one give equality to a sick aberrant lifestyle without realizing that there are other sickies out there who do not get this same equality? How about equality for polygamists, at least their sex is normal even if the plurality isn't. If my wife nagged me to vote for homosexuals, I would keep a sharp eye on her to see who her "friends" were.Fag hag or Lesbian. No son: You jumped the shark, and now your true colors are showing. It's New York, you might survive, but in Conservative ,real America your political career deserves to be over.
5 posted on 07/16/2011 6:02:40 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Apologies for long post!

These Marxists minds are sick and twisted.....using “feelings” instead of intellect to decide crucial social issues. This idea “feel good, do it” comes from the pervert Herbert Marcuse and the cultural Marxists who want to destroy the two pillars of Western Civiliation—Christianity and the natural family.

This damages both, in irreparable ways, because it denies the fundamental difference of man and woman (Marxist idea that woman and man are equal and interchangeable). It is a LIE—scientifically proven. It is the Marxist intent to ruin the relationship between men and women (create an institution which intentionally is sexist—eliminates the uniting of the sexes (dialectic, you know) so they can destroy the cultural norms which sustain a culture. This is to destroy the children where some are now going to be forbidden their biological (inalienable) rights by force of law (so unconstitutional) so they can redesign mankind and progress into “utopia” as designed by Marxists (Satan).

This denial of natural kinds is bizarre—flies against logic and reason which is embodied in our Constitution and is a denial of Universal Truth and Natural Law—a denial of God. Therefore, this ruling denies our God-given rights, because it denies God’s design of the human body.

We can not teach children these pathetic lies. That is what Marxism is—indoctrinating children into moral relatisim—there is no right and wrong aside from what some pervert wants it to be.....that always destroys culture—because there is no fixed standards. ‘Might makes right’ is the principle here. It is a total transformation of our Founding principles, and therefore, unconstitutional by every standard.

It is like playing a basketball game with everyone making up there own rules. It ends up in fights and hatred-—exactly how the Marxists will destroy this nation. Take away all our standards that have created a flourishing society—create chaos and you destroy the unity and, eventually the country.

It is illegal to “redefine” the word marriage which has has a fixed meaning for thousands of years. This is right out of the book of Marxism, to destroy meaning and history in a culture. Think about the repercussions...all text books will have to be revised—all young children will have to “understand” that marriage BY LAW includes homosexuals....this is such a sick, unnatural idea to warp a child’s sexual identity, so they can be easily seduced—there is no right and wrong. No absolutes! It is a LIE since no absolutes is an absolute. (There are only lies in moral relativism).

Four and five year olds learn (brainwashing) that unnatural pairings are normal. (That is what homosexuals want so they no longer feel icky about what they do. They need adulation and affirmation. But it won’t work because of nature’s design. Even Aristotle knew that. Evil is evil, even when they get politically forced “praise” for their sick behavior.). That will open up incest, polygamy, beastiality—because there is no logic to the union—therefore, anything can be “rational” and normal.

This is about destroying Western Civilization—reason and logic and science. It is to destroy logic in children with cognitive dissonance. The ex-KGB Yuri B. explains how this type of indoctrination destroys intellectual development to where truth can never be recognized—this is the process that is in public schools now—to teach cognitive dissonance which destroys rationality.

It is why young adults today are so irrational and see no problem with homosexuality. They have been conditioned into a Marxist worldview. They no longer are rational—can’t be with a life of cognitive dissonance (Heather has two mommies). Government schools destroys morality and rationality intentionally so people will be concerned only about materialism and can euthanize mommy and daddy and kill their babies. Relationships are intentionally destroyed because the natural family is a problem to Marxists. It is the building block of society which creates emotionally healthy children who grow up to be responsible and self-sufficient and take care of their families.

Teaching up is down also destroys children’s ability to believe in the Bible (like evolution (but homosexual = “good” makes the Bible hate speech and bigoted) It destroys young children’s ability to make sense of the world and come to a healthy sexual identity. The confusion is intentional and will influence the worldview into atheism and hedonism and paganism. Enlightenment began this ‘throwing off the shackles of God’, since it curtailed man’s “fun” but the concept of homosexual “marriage” puts the nail in the coffin.

In all pro-homosexual societies, pederasty is rampant—it is about pleasuring oneself—selfishness and with no regard for the future (posterity). People with such perverted desires will indulge in more and more radical sex because the boring and routine leads to nothing but empty nihilism—no fulfillment, no happiness. They will have to “adopt” or whatever, to validate their pathetic lives with no regard to the needs of a child. It is selfishness—all about oneself. It will devolve into orgies and chaos and tyranny like it did in ancient Greece and Rome.

Too bad this guy is so confused about human nature and history. He is evil to force such unnatural ideas into the heads of children....this is what applying the name “marriage” to anything, is all about—to condition children into thinking something so dysfunctional is natural and “good” is forcing the a worldview that will embrace evil as good.


6 posted on 07/16/2011 7:20:29 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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What are going to do after public service, Steve? You might want to give it some real thought starting now.

It sounds like Steve is quite enamored with Andrew Cuomo. Maybe he should divorce the wife, say "Yes to the Dress", and marry the Gov.

Hollywood could do a bang up version of that story. I can just see it now on the theater marque: "The RINO and the RUINATOR"

7 posted on 07/16/2011 7:22:54 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: savagesusie
He is evil to force such unnatural ideas into the heads of children....this is what applying the name “marriage” to anything, is all about—to condition children into thinking something so dysfunctional is natural and “good” is forcing the a worldview that will embrace evil as good.

Yup. That's what it is all about. Now a gay guy can marry his boyfriend and apply for a job as a 3rd grade school teacher and the district will be sued if they try to deny him the job. He can then indoctrinate his little subjects into the wonderful world of same sex unions. Lots of little boys will be receptive to this stuff because in their young minds girls are still "yucky".

8 posted on 07/16/2011 7:33:16 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Yep....it is the natural formation of sexual identity. To develop healthy sexual identity there are stages where boys have to identify and be accepted by boys—peers. Same with girls—called the latency period—which is when girls prefer girls and boys prefer boys.

That is why homosexuals want access to young kids. They will label this natural process as homosexuality and young children will accept this because they will prefer their own sex during a healthy latency period.

This is normal and necessary for normal sexual development—Freud knew this over 100 years ago. It is known by all psychologists and psychologists so they are evil if they do not fight the “homosexual” indoctrination in elementary schools.

Where you promote homosexuality—you get lots of it—it is a learned behavior (ancient Greece, Afghanistan). Of course, it has to entail the seduction and perversion of young boys. Pederasty is always a major part of homosexuality since their sexuality was perverted as a young child. (Lesbianism is just a rejection and/or a hatred of men—caused by abuse or rejection by males in their young life.)

Homosexuality is caused by emotional and/or physical abuse and a grooming into the “lifestyle”. Typical in homosexual societies is the glorification of seduction of boys by men...such in ancient Greece and Afghanistan today. It is disgusting and makes sex slaves of boys.


9 posted on 07/16/2011 9:05:13 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie
Well put. Exactly right. At least one gay activists admits that is their goal.

Gay Activist admits that they are recruiting children

10 posted on 07/16/2011 12:56:52 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

And Satan spoke to the woman and she did eat. And she gave the fruit to her husband.


11 posted on 07/17/2011 5:01:02 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Good one. You are right.


12 posted on 07/17/2011 7:41:16 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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