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Historical marker can 'make a difference' (Civil War)
The (Dalton, Georgia) Daily Citizen ^ | 07/15/2011 | Charles Oliver

Posted on 07/15/2011 9:27:19 AM PDT by GrootheWanderer

On Jan. 2, 1864, Confederate Gen. Patrick Cleburne presented his fellow Southerners with a question about the war they were fighting.

“Was the war about independence? Or was the war being fought primarily to preserve slavery?” said former Georgia labor commissioner Michael Thurmond.

(Excerpt) Read more at TDC ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; civilwar; confederacy; georgia; godsgravesglyphs; greatestpresident; history
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Cleburne was one of the more fascinating figures in the Civil War. Unfortunately, except for real Civil War buffs, I think he is pretty much unknown today.
1 posted on 07/15/2011 9:27:27 AM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

interesting blog link but has nothing to do with your topic


2 posted on 07/15/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: GrootheWanderer

The link took me to some blog talking of FAA inspectors????


3 posted on 07/15/2011 9:33:33 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: GrootheWanderer

Agreed, a quite interesting man. But cursed by living in an era of a great many interesting men and deeds. Hard to stand out, even before considering the distance in time.


4 posted on 07/15/2011 9:33:46 AM PDT by tlb
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To: GrootheWanderer

IB4TZ!


5 posted on 07/15/2011 9:35:27 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: GrootheWanderer
Here's a link to the article: http://daltondailycitizen.com/local/x1475585914/Historical-marker-can-make-a-difference.
6 posted on 07/15/2011 9:40:14 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: silverleaf

I don’t know how that happened. I checked to see if I had the right link.

Here is the cirrect one:

http://daltondailycitizen.com/local/x1475585914/Historical-marker-can-make-a-difference


7 posted on 07/15/2011 9:40:37 AM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

Not this again. Focus on the real issues - the Democrats/liberals/socialists. Go over to the liberal websites and ask them if they enjoy killing children.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 9:42:36 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: GrootheWanderer
“Was the war about independence? Or was the war being fought primarily to preserve slavery?” said former Georgia labor commissioner Michael Thurmond.

The war was about getting independence so they could preserve slavery.

9 posted on 07/15/2011 9:46:33 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

300 replies, bare minimum.

Let me get it started. Abraham Lincoln was a Saint!


10 posted on 07/15/2011 9:48:36 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: silverleaf

Found it, here is the link:

http://daltondailycitizen.com/local/x1475585914/Historical-marker-can-make-a-difference


11 posted on 07/15/2011 9:54:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Fiji Hill

You beat me.


12 posted on 07/15/2011 9:55:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: GrootheWanderer

For what it’s worth even Robert E. Lee was rebuffed when he advanced the same idea a year later.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 9:59:34 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Is Cleburne the same General as Patrick Claiborne? I read about a Confederate General Claiborne who was born in Ireland. He fought in Tennesee, I think it was Battle of Nashville in 1864.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 10:02:04 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Preserve and extend.

The goal, at least of the extremists, was a slave empire extending to the Isthmus and covering all or most of the Caribbean. Some wanted to go all the way to Cape Horn.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/chap13.html

They were utterly delusional in this, of course, as even if they had won independence, the British would never have let them expand slavery, even assuming the rump of the Union would have nothing to say about it.

Given the transportation of the time, the only way to build such an empire was by maritime transport, and the RN ruled the waves.


15 posted on 07/15/2011 10:03:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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16 posted on 07/15/2011 10:04:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: blueunicorn6
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Since Feb 11, 2011

Not this again. Focus on the real issues ...
Only five months on FR and you're telling others what they can and can't post?
MYOB and mind your feckin' manners newbie.
17 posted on 07/15/2011 10:07:05 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: forgotten man
Is Cleburne the same General as Patrick Claiborne? I read about a Confederate General Claiborne who was born in Ireland. He fought in Tennesee, I think it was Battle of Nashville in 1864.

Patrick Cleborne was his name. Your spelling of his name is incorrect.

He was killed at the Battle of Franklin, Nov. 30, 1864.

18 posted on 07/15/2011 10:11:24 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If found, please return this Ring of Power to Sauron, Lord of Darkness. Return postage guaranteed.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Hey, blogpimp. The link doesn’t take you to the story. “revitalizing-the-u-s-economy-through-government-spending”

Getting ready to hit the abuse button on you, and I will give the mods the correct link. http://daltondailycitizen.com/local/x1475585914/Historical-marker-can-make-a-difference


19 posted on 07/15/2011 11:58:04 AM PDT by PAR35
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“Is Cleburne the same General as Patrick Claiborne? I read about a Confederate General Claiborne who was born in Ireland. He fought in Tennesee, I think it was Battle of Nashville in 1864.”

One-in-the-same. He was a “soldier’s soldier”, having risen from a private soldier to general. He was killed at the Battle of Franklin (Tennessee) in 1864. After hearing General Hood’s assault plan for Franklin, he gave his boots to one of his soldiers with words to the effect, “I won’t be needing these much longer.” Unfortunately, his premonition proved to be accurate. He was one of about a half-dozen Confederate Generals killed at Franklin. A very interesting fellow.


20 posted on 07/15/2011 12:02:43 PM PDT by Gum Shoe (You live to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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