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Is Obama getting ready to snooker Boehner on taxes?
Reuters ^ | JUL 9, 2011 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 07/09/2011 2:55:49 PM PDT by Qbert

The media accounts of the tax reform deal being cooked up by President Obama and House Speaker Boehner aren’t all that clear. But it is looking like a big tax increase:

– The White House is insisting that as part of any deal the current tax rates on the middle class—the child tax credit, etc.—would be made permanent, while the lower rates on capital gains, dividends and the higher income brackets would expire after 2012. Taken by itself this would be a tax increase pure and simple and violate the GOP’s campaign pledge.

But here’s what we’re told is Mr. Boehner’s political kicker: The proposed deal would also include some kind of “trigger” device, so far undefined, that would compel House and Senate negotiators to complete tax reform discussions over the next several months. We’re told the White House has said it is open in principle to a top rate of 35% on individuals and something like 26% or 27% on corporations—in return for closing various loopholes.

More troubling than these details is the staggered timing. Republicans would be putting their fingerprints on a tax increase in return for spending cuts as a first order of business, which would raise the dividend and top income tax rates to 39.6% (from 35%), or 41% if you include the phase-out of deductions. (Plus the 3.8% payroll tax hike baked into ObamaCare.) Only then would Mr. Obama and the Democrats negotiate the details of tax reform and lower overall rates. (Wall Street Journal editorial)

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All very confusing, but the best I can make of it is this: higher taxes now in exchange for a promise of tax cuts later to be “paid for” by reducing tax breaks/deductions/loopholes with perhaps some of that money going toward deficit reduction.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; obama; stupidparty; taxes
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Here we go again?...
1 posted on 07/09/2011 2:55:56 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Yes.


2 posted on 07/09/2011 2:57:20 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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al Reuters wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and punched them in the nose.
3 posted on 07/09/2011 2:57:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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Sounds like a typical bait and switch job, using poisoned bait to boot. Give us the “meet us halfway enhancements” up front and trust us to meet our side of the bargain later. We can both advertise success!


4 posted on 07/09/2011 2:57:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Boehner is ready to be snookered.


5 posted on 07/09/2011 2:59:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway (All the Squares go home)
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To: Qbert

Rooters reporting on this has been less then factual.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 3:00:48 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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Speaker Boehner needs to take a lesson from history: you can’t trust Democrats because they are liars and tricksters.

President George Herbert Walker Bush trusted the Democrats in Congress when he agreed to raise taxes in exchange for a balanced budget.

They stabbed him in the back!

Don’t ever trust the Democratic Party.


7 posted on 07/09/2011 3:00:58 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Qbert

Boehner is just another Trent Lott.


8 posted on 07/09/2011 3:02:27 PM PDT by stboz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“al Reuters wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and punched them in the nose.”

The author’s always been pretty reliable. Heard him on Mark Levin’s show last week.


9 posted on 07/09/2011 3:03:09 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SatinDoll

President George Herbert Walker Bush trusted the Democrats in Congress when he agreed to raise taxes in exchange for a balanced budget.


They did it to Reagan to.


10 posted on 07/09/2011 3:04:36 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Qbert
lucy will pull the football away...again.
11 posted on 07/09/2011 3:04:40 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Qbert

Don’t jump to conclusions. Reuters lied last week and had to retract a story regarding remarks by Sen. Kyle.


12 posted on 07/09/2011 3:05:22 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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This is from Reuters so it can't be trusted...just like Democrats. Boehner is a blithering fool if he falls for the old Democrat game of tax hikes now, spending cuts later (that never happen). He is dangerously close to rendering his party irrelevant if he is stupid enough to fall for this Democrat flim-flam. I'm hoping this is a BS, wishful-thinking lie from Reuters, but I'm not optimistic.
13 posted on 07/09/2011 3:05:44 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Qbert

14 posted on 07/09/2011 3:05:55 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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More from article:

I can tell you this: Democrats need a lot more tax revenue to make their long-term budget plans works. This is why Obama has not offered a long-term budget plan. The need for massive tax increases would then be clear to all. In private, liberal economists all talk about a need for a value-added tax to raise the additional revenue.

But a liberal think with close ties to the White House, the Center for American Progress, recently released a budget plan that goes out to 2035. It shows taxes as a share of the economy rising dramatically to nearly 24% of GDP vs. around 18-19 percent historically. And I am guessing they would go even higher if the table went beyond 2035. If Boehner and the Republicans don’t hold the line now on taxes, this is the American future

15 posted on 07/09/2011 3:06:41 PM PDT by randita
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To: nickcarraway

Boehner is ready to snooker the conservatives in the GOP


16 posted on 07/09/2011 3:07:35 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe.)
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Is there anybody who COULDN’T snooker Boner??


17 posted on 07/09/2011 3:11:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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and Boner will fall for it and then cry about it. “It’s the best we could get”

Of course, no deal is a win for the GP


18 posted on 07/09/2011 3:12:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Qbert

RINOs are Cavemen.


19 posted on 07/09/2011 3:12:31 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SatinDoll
Don’t ever trust the Democratic Party.

There is no Democratic Party. It has been the communists party for many years. Bonehead is a nitwit and wouldn't take much to fool this as@. As for the GOP, it is filled with communists like thinking for years. America is screwed and will never recover unless at least half of federal employees are dumped and restoration of the Constitution is back. Half of all judges from local up to the SC as as@es.

20 posted on 07/09/2011 3:16:27 PM PDT by Logical me
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