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Firearms industry has a stranglehold on Congress and state legislatures
The Hill ^ | 06/23/11 | Mayor Mikey B Coleman

Posted on 06/24/2011 9:09:02 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican

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Idiot Coleman is in autopilot fairy tale mode.
1 posted on 06/24/2011 9:09:08 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ohio ping


2 posted on 06/24/2011 9:10:07 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

SB17 text: “you may have a firearm if you are not consuming alcohol”


3 posted on 06/24/2011 9:11:16 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

From what I understand about Columbus, they coddle the criminal element well. Maybe Mr. Coleman ought to get his house in order before he criticizes the rest of us who are law-abiding gun owners.


4 posted on 06/24/2011 9:12:31 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I am a bit bewildered on the reason behind letting a bunch of drunks get together all armed. All of us gunowners are taught safety and responsibility, drinking and carrying to me isnt all that responsible.


5 posted on 06/24/2011 9:13:17 PM PDT by eak3
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To: eak3

And your solution would be?


6 posted on 06/24/2011 9:16:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: doc1019

maybe treat it like drinking and driving, you get caught intoxicated while carrying you lose your permit to carry.


7 posted on 06/24/2011 9:18:00 PM PDT by eak3
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Yeah, because it’s a huge problem in PA, where there is no law on the books restricting your RIGHT to carry when consuming an alcoholic beverage. It’s almost like the State trusts the people to be responsible (CRAZY AS THAT SOUNDS!!).

Oh wait, wild west shootouts, blood in the streets, etc... Idiot.


8 posted on 06/24/2011 9:21:56 PM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: eak3

See #3.


9 posted on 06/24/2011 9:23:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: eak3

Perhaps post #3 can help.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 9:24:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: eak3

Mayhap a suspension. Even drunk drivers get second chances. Both are responsible for a deadly weapon.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 9:26:31 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: eak3
America...Hell yeah!!!

Seriously, I believe its a good idea, mainly because while we are pushing for MORE gun freedom, the libs are always pushing for LESS. If things don't go our way, it will go their way...And we'll have no guns at all.

12 posted on 06/24/2011 9:33:21 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Funny how he portrays everywhere in question as a bar. Before the law you couldn't even go to the local Chipotle armed because they had some beer they sold out of a cooler.

With the new law the restaurant owners can still post a sign to prohibit people coming in armed, but the penalty will be a misdemeanor instead of a felony.

13 posted on 06/24/2011 9:34:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: eak3

Yeah, I won’t pack if I am drinking, most of the time. If I go out to dinner with The Warden I will almost always carry. I may have a beer or two, but I won’t be over the legal limit. Now, I’m not saying having a beer when armed is smart, but if she is with me and we are out, I’ll take my chances with the goblins and with the law. I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

Flame away.


14 posted on 06/24/2011 9:38:05 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Rab sees no requirement to be armed prior to entry to a “bar” even though entering is probably a bad idea. Going anywhere unarmed is probably a bad and possibly fatal idea.

So?


15 posted on 06/24/2011 9:39:13 PM PDT by Rabin
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Greetings wjcsux:

Uniform Crime Statistics Columbus violent crime rate, under the tenure of Mayor Dufus.

CRIME INDEX: 2
100 is safest
This city is safer than 2% of the cities in the US.

More likely than not, that 2% are the Mayors Against Illegal Guns cities.

MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM
in Columbus
1 in 119
in Ohio
1 in 281

Send your children to Columbus; for what?

Cheers,
OLA

16 posted on 06/24/2011 9:46:11 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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“I am a bit bewildered on the reason behind letting a bunch of drunks get together all armed.”

I understand your concern about what people do when they get together for a week long hunting trip, but this isn't about that.

And it's not really about going armed in bars.

It's about going armed in restaurants.

Previously those with a Concealed Handgun License could not carry a firearm in an establishment where alcohol was served/consumed. That meant they could not carry in restaurants that served alcohol, which is a lot of restaurants, especially the better ones.

All CHL holders wanted to do was be able to carry when they patronized a nice restaurant.

The thing is, Ohio does not distinguish between establishments that are primarily for drinking, with some eating, and those that are primarily for dining, with some drinking. Some states distinguish based on percentage of sales, but Ohio doesn't.

So in order to legalize carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, they had to legalize it for bars too.

Legalized carry in restaurants was mostly the point of the effort. The anti-gun folks are ranting about the bar part because, well because they are anti-gun.

And as someone else wrote, it's not legal to drink and carry.

17 posted on 06/24/2011 9:48:33 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Note to Self: Don’t refer to yourself with a 5 year-olds name and expect adults to take you seriously.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 9:54:01 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Greetings KarlInOhio:

Ever notice how Mayor Dufus never understands the difference between “legal” and “illegal?” He supports illegal immigration too.

What’s next, not knowing the difference between legal and illegal campaign contributions?

Cheers,
OLA


19 posted on 06/24/2011 9:54:03 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Thanks for the information. I believe the reason “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” exists is to give Blue City Mayors an excuse for the unwillingness to control crime in the cesspools for cities they represent. Columbus looks bad. Have you guys caught up with Cleveland yet?


20 posted on 06/24/2011 9:57:33 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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