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Rep. Scott Garrett (R-NJ): Bill Limiting Military Action in Libya is Unconstitutional
http://garrett.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=248775 ^ | June 24, 2011

Posted on 06/24/2011 2:29:09 PM PDT by dead

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Garrett is my congressman, and is about as conservative as you're going to find anywhere in congress. He raises some valid points, imho.
1 posted on 06/24/2011 2:29:14 PM PDT by dead
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"Congress should and must debate the merits of our foray in to Libya and either authorize it completely or demand that the president terminate our military engagement.” "

So get a formal declaration of war, already. No work-arounds.

2 posted on 06/24/2011 2:32:57 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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"Congress should and must debate the merits of our foray in to Libya and either authorize it completely or demand that the president terminate our military engagement.”"

Not gonna happen in a Republican House. Clear and decisive votes make the leadership 'uncomfortable'. Only symbolic votes are allowed.

3 posted on 06/24/2011 2:34:34 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: dead

Congress could simply defund the military I guess


4 posted on 06/24/2011 2:34:53 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: dead

congress has not declared war

the power of the purse belongs to congress

until a court declares a law unconstitutional, its the law


5 posted on 06/24/2011 2:38:05 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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Declaration of War? What’s that?

Wasn’t the last one the USA issued way back on 12/8/1941?

After that we just played it by ear.


6 posted on 06/24/2011 2:41:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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bush had a declaration of war


7 posted on 06/24/2011 2:42:53 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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” until a court declares a law unconstitutional, its the law “

So, are you saying that Congress has no obligation to consider the Constitution when it passes legislation?? Or the Prez - whoever he may be - has no business considering the constitutionality of a bill when he signs it into law??

Funny - I thought they all took oaths to ‘preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution’.....


8 posted on 06/24/2011 2:49:50 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: sloop

No, that is not correct. WWII in 1941 was the last declaration of war by the U. S. Congress.


9 posted on 06/24/2011 2:49:57 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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bush had a declaration of war

No, Bush had "congressional approval" for war, whatever the hell that is.

Congress has not declared war since WWII.

10 posted on 06/24/2011 2:52:45 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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He raises no points, he is saying the president has absolute powers.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 2:54:12 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: 353FMG

Declaration of War? What’s that?

Wasn’t the last one the USA issued way back on 12/8/1941?


That’s right. Roosevelt was the last president with enough leadership ability to get a formal declaration of war through Congress. Since then it’s been UN resolutions and work-arounds. Incidentally that was the last major war that we won.


12 posted on 06/24/2011 2:54:42 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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“While I in no way support President Obama’s unauthorized, unconstitutional war in Libya, I could not vote for Rep. Rooney’s bill limiting the use of funds,”
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Garrett sounds like a very good man.
not only conservative, but has integrity.
i wish my congressman was even half as good...


13 posted on 06/24/2011 2:55:48 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Starboard

You are correct, boner and cantor need a retirement vote.


14 posted on 06/24/2011 2:55:51 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: savedbygrace

wrong - bush had a declaration


15 posted on 06/24/2011 2:56:09 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: Uncle Ike

if you think congress does not pass laws that they know are unconstitutional, it ain’t true

the war powers act was passed - most experts think its unconstitutional - but until its challenged in court, its the law of the land


16 posted on 06/24/2011 2:58:26 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: dead

how is that different than a declaration?


17 posted on 06/24/2011 2:59:02 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: 353FMG

We have only declared war 5 times. None of the “Indian Wars” were declared, the Civil War was not declared, the War against the Barbary pirates was not declared, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Gulf War, Balkan War, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

The War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Spanish War, World War I, and World War II are the only times the U.S. Congress has declared war.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 2:59:05 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: sloop

wrong - bush had a declaration


Maybe his declaration was about no child left behind but we did not get a formal declaration of war from Congress.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 3:00:31 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: dead

He has no constitutional point. Since Congress did not authorize war, they have no obligation to fund it.

If Obama orders the military to seize every gun in the USA, does Congress have an obligation to fund the seizure?

It is stupid.


20 posted on 06/24/2011 3:01:11 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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