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Romney’s Religion Problem
National Review Online ^ | 6/18/11 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/18/2011 6:13:52 AM PDT by randita

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To: Matchett-PI

Yes, and they do very much have an agenda. Have read several books such as the one you recommended. Amazing the distorations and outright fables and lies they put into their relgious practices....as far as I’m concerned their religion is simply the front that enables their leadership to gain Internationally and here is the USA just as a corporation is about...so too are they. With the people at the bottom maintaing the cash flow.

Futher their distortions of what Christianity is, which it is not, keeps their members in a vise..where they are baited, fed and swallow their nonsense hook line and sinker.

There is a reason the Christian community as a whole rejects Mormonism as Christian. Their doctrines and practices are way outside that of the Christian Christ and those who follow Him...though as with most cults and false religions they claim Christ just the same. But it is a different Christ and even their leader stated as so.


21 posted on 06/18/2011 7:14:13 AM PDT by caww
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To: randita
ROMNEYRINOCHURCH
22 posted on 06/18/2011 7:23:04 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Vendome

Yes indeed an excellant article...and from it:

The Center for Security Policy has just released a study,

“Shariah Law and American Courts:

An Assessment of State Appellate Court Cases,” which — using standard Google search techniques — uncovered 50 cases, from 23 states, in which Islamic law materially impacted the litigation. In 15 trial-court cases and 12 appellate cases,.... ‘courts found sharia to be applicable.’

This sampling, as the report observes, is just “the tip of the iceberg,” because Google Scholar is only a general Internet search tool — there is no complete database of state legal cases involving sharia.”


23 posted on 06/18/2011 7:27:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: randita

I personally have spent a lot of time researching Mormonism and though I believe it is crap the product of a conman. That said I’d vote for Mitt Romney in a heart beat if he had a conservative record and I trusted him. My opposition to him has nothing to do with his religion now It is not lost on me that many do care and that people are delusional if they think that the Democrats won’t make it an issue.

My problem is that Romeny’s record is horrid as Gov. The state was ranked 47th out of 50 during his tenure. He spent hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars funding the “Governors commission on gay and lesbian youth” while he raised fees on businesses into the stratosphere and the fees would have been higher had it not been for Democrats stopping him. When it is the Democrats stopping you from hurting business I think that is telling. Then of course he signed into law the subsidized health care mandate. It started out in the first year with an 130 billion budget it is now over 800 million and is projected to exceed 880 million dollars by the end of the fiscal year.

What I fear from Romney and he has proven this in the past is that he will if elected be provide the entrenching of Obamacare. Sure he would try to repeal it but I fear even more that he might try to own the issue and do something just as horrible as did Nixon with the EPA. Far too many bad Democrat ideas have been made permanent by weak Republicans. What we need is a fighter and someone who has the right instincts. Romney clearly doesn’t and God forbid if we lose the House under him which I believe would be more likely given is governance style.


24 posted on 06/18/2011 8:04:49 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: faucetman
I still want to know!

Does Romney wear the “special” underpants?

If you have to ask you do not understand his faith. Either that or you are making a point. Impossible to tell which, except that the question has a linkage to the boxers or briefs investigations of the 90's.

25 posted on 06/18/2011 8:24:44 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: FreeMaine
The left ain't picking the nominee this time.

I pray you're right, but there's every reason to believe the Left will pick the Republican Party presidential nominee once again in 2012.

The problem and its solution is always clearest immediately after the first few rounds of primaries and money dries up for all but one and a determined bench of candidates who stay in until the Convention.

The problem is the presidential primary system itself. The Convention is an award show, a nod to the time, still in living memory, when delegates actually could determine who the nominee might be, as recently as 1976, for example, when North Carolina's primary (which is so late in the process that it almost never makes a difference in the outcome) kept Ronald Reagan's candidacy alive against Gerald Ford, though Ford ultimately won the nomination that year and lost the General Election.

Less so four years later when Edward Kennedy was 100 delegates behind President Carter, who won the nomination and lost the General Election to Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Go back a few decades and the presidential primaries were not nearly so important. The problem is the Republican establishment, sometimes dragged against its will, sometime happily, allowed state legislatures to set up a "reform" process, usually following drubbings in national elections, in 1968 for example, when George McGovern led a Democrat commission planning the "reforms" needed going into the presidential nomination process in 1972.

Interesting that he went on to win the nomination himself. And after he was crushed by Richard Nixon in 1972, guess who led the next Democrat commission set up to reform the process ahead of 1976... a little known "Conservative" former Governor of Georgia.

All these reforms, leading to open primaries, calendar shopping and shuffling, largely - though not exclusively - led by liberal Democrats has resulted in this ridiculous presidential primary tournament that reminds me of "March Madness" in the world of NCAA college basketball.

Democrats (or ACORN droids, for that matter) can cross into New Hampshire from Boston and vote in the Republican presidential primary multiple times. Who has time for examining the results when it's on to some other state seven days later, and on and on...

Bottomline: The State, meaning any of the several States, including the federal government - has zero - nadda - zilch business involving itself (on any level) in selecting the nominee of any political party. As it is, the big Party's have used the hammer of their legislatures to marginalize and make themselves "official," and to control ballot access, etc.

The present Rube Goldberg system for selecting both the Republican and Democrat presidential nominees serves the interests of the Media, of course, and those of local economies, but not the interests of Conservatives in the Republican Party.

That system, used as a way of winning battles of perception and, ultimately, the lion's share of donors has created this system that gave us Bob Dole, who essentially won the nomination and decided the outcome of the 1996 presidential election when practicalities forced Phil Gramm out of the race as early as March of that year.

It lead again to McCain's "presumed nomination" almost as early in the contest in 2008 also.

The presidential primary system that delivered those discouraging results is still essentially in place, all the results of reforms the Democrats sold as ways of "getting away from the old Smoke-Filled Rooms," everyone thought was bad, bad, bad.

With Romney already the "frontrunner" halfway through 2011 (Ronald Reagan was considered early when he announced his intention to run for the nomination against Ford in November 1975!) - forgive me if I do not share your enthusiasm that Lucy won't pull the football out from the path of Charlie Brown's kick, once again.

The time for changing the process back to one that is exclusive to people willing to work for Republicans at the precinct level, who win delegate fights, one after another, all the way to credential fights when the Convention opens - thus leaving everyone satisfied, at least, that the winner has the support of the whole Party was after John McCain lost to Obama (of all people) in 2008. As is is, nothing has changed to the odd-ball, and very nontraditional, presidential primary process that leads me to believe Conservative Republicans aren't already being set up for the demoralizing result this White House wants very much to happen in 2012.

Damn, I wish people would wake up and understand the presidential primary process is wrong, perhaps illegal, discriminating against people who live in certain States just because they live where presidential primaries serve only to confirm outcome in New Hampshire, South Carolina, California and caucuses in Iowa.

I've little doubt McCain or Dole would have won their nominations under the original systems. Neither would George McGovern in 1972.

If were focused on the nominees instead of the Convention delegates the Liberals are already winning the demoralizing result they want.

26 posted on 06/18/2011 8:31:38 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: FrankR

Excellent cartoon.

I fully expect the media to try to guilt everyone into voting for Romney for his oppressed Mormonism just like they succeeded in getting so many to vote for Obama for his black skin.


27 posted on 06/18/2011 8:56:10 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: seowulf
ROMNEY RINO CHURCH
28 posted on 06/18/2011 9:28:33 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: seowulf

I would never vote for a Mormon or an atheist or a muslim. Never.


29 posted on 06/18/2011 10:07:53 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Prospero

The left wins this time only if Christ raptures His church. To many of us are now involved with the Tea Party and could care less what the R party says or thinks.


30 posted on 06/18/2011 10:26:25 AM PDT by FreeMaine (America unite and kick Maine out of the Union.)
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To: exPBRrat

George Romney was never a Senator, but he did become a laughing stock as the anti-war Presidential candidate while his son Mitt was avoiding military service, living in France, George never served either, no Romney man has ever served our nation in uniform.

George got laughed off the stage before his Mormonism could become an issue.


31 posted on 06/18/2011 3:09:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: faucetman; Louis Foxwell
Does Romney wear the “special” underpants?

Yes, Bishop Romney does wear the magic underwear.

32 posted on 06/18/2011 3:14:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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