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How Miserable? Index Says the Worst in 28 Years
CNBC ^ | 06-17-11 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 06/17/2011 2:59:30 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA

When it comes to measuring the combination of unemployment and inflation, it doesn’t get much more miserable than this.

The index, first compiled during the soaring inflation days of the 1970s by economist Arthur Okun, is registering a nausea-inducing 12.7—9.1 percent for unemployment and 3.6 percent for annualized inflation—a number not seen since 1983. The index has been above 10 since November 2009 and had been under double-digits from June 1993 through May 2008.

The good news, of course, is that the Fed-led Paul Volcker embarked on a highly successful inflation-slaying campaign that brought the level of misery down sharply through the rest of the ’80s recovery decade.

The bad news, of course, is all the bad news.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: inflation; miseryindex; obama; unemployment
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If anyone is still around pushing that this economy is on the mend, they are flat out lying to your face.

There are always guys on CNBC pushing that we are about to go on a massive upswing in the economy. Here is the last paragraph that sums this stupidity up nicely.

Conversely, misery is not universal, with Elliott F. Gue’s Personal Finance Newsletter making the case for the optimists that one should not “fall prey to the panic fanned by the usual fear-mongering doomsayers,” a group that presumably includes those unemployed or bewildered by inflation and, thus, in misery.

1 posted on 06/17/2011 2:59:33 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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If anyone is still around pushing that this economy is on the mend, they are flat out lying to your face.

Why would this be anything new?

2 posted on 06/17/2011 3:01:39 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

How well I can remember the mess Jimmy Carter made. And Obama is Carter times ten.


3 posted on 06/17/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: fwdude

It’s like the past 2.5 years were a combined 28 years of misery.


4 posted on 06/17/2011 3:02:55 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“There are always guys on CNBC pushing that we are about to go on a massive upswing in the economy.”

There have been different people saying that at different times for years now; the problem with peddling that nonsense is that a rapidly-growing number of people are aware that “the emperor has no clothes”. People will no longer vote based on “hope & change”; they realize they’ve been had. They’ll vote based on hard dollars and the jobs that earn them, and Obama has failed them on this score.

We haven’t hit bottom yet; I deal with a number of banks, and we just moved over from the platform of a large one to another large one that bought them. The American southerners I used to deal with have been replaced by thick-accented Asians on the phone; I seriously doubt they are in the US (it would be difficult for them to get customer-service type jobs here). One of them actually sent me an email with both her “American name” as well as her real name (which seemed to be Vietnamese). As these banks are huge, I’d imagine thousands of jobs were just lost...again.


5 posted on 06/17/2011 3:05:57 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Lazlo in PA

GREEN SHOOTS ALL OVER AMERICA


6 posted on 06/17/2011 3:06:54 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Lazlo in PA

I am surprised that Obama hasn’t dusted off the Jimmah Carter “malaise” speech!


7 posted on 06/17/2011 3:07:05 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I believe a different formula was used for calculating unemployment as well as inflation in 1983, so the misery index would be higher today using that old formula.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 3:07:41 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Lazlo in PA
The MSM has THREE MEMEs.

First, PROTECT THE IMPOSTOR.
Second, IGNORE THE ECONOMY and BLAME BUSH and the JEWS.

Third,

9 posted on 06/17/2011 3:08:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: reefdiver

More like locusts.


10 posted on 06/17/2011 3:08:51 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“If anyone is still around pushing that this economy is on the mend, they are flat out lying to your face.”

I honestly haven’t had anyone say that to me for over a year now; here in NJ it was the public sector that kept pushing that line, and now they’re feeling some of the pain their employers (us) have been feeling.


11 posted on 06/17/2011 3:09:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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When it comes to measuring the combination of unemployment and inflation, it doesn’t get much more miserable than this.

Well at least we are in a recovery! /MS

12 posted on 06/17/2011 3:16:51 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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How well I can remember the mess Jimmy Carter made.

Yes but all the inroads we made with Carters efforts like 55mph, catalytic converters, uni-body cars, ect., saved us from having to go through the hell of saving the planet in the new millennium.

...Oh, wait a minute...

14 posted on 06/17/2011 3:23:55 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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“How well I can remember the mess Jimmy Carter made. And Obama is Carter times ten.”

Me too. 28 years ago. My first time to vote, and it was for Reagan. Pity about the VP, but had to take the runt to get the giant.


15 posted on 06/17/2011 3:23:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: EGPWS

LOL!

Deja vu crisis alert!


16 posted on 06/17/2011 3:25:11 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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it’s actually a lie. The U6 (pre 1990s) rate should be used, upping the rate to much higher...

The U6 is 16.5, the one they used is 9.3?


17 posted on 06/17/2011 3:27:23 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: kearnyirish2
People will no longer vote based on “hope & change”;

ROTFLMAO!

Yippers, me thinks the ol' hopey changey thing has been put to rest forever.

Obama is going to be voted out of office more than Palin is going to be voted in!

18 posted on 06/17/2011 3:28:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The Republicans should make an ad showing images from 1979 morphing into images from today. The background music could be “Get down, boogie oogie oogie....” or some other crappy disco music.


19 posted on 06/17/2011 3:31:56 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Psalm 144
Me too. 28 years ago. My first time to vote, and it was for Reagan.

What an excellent introduction to a lifetime of voting!!

I voted for Ford against Carter....

20 posted on 06/17/2011 3:32:19 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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