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A New Paradigm for the Left?
davidlimbaugh.com ^ | 06/16/11 | david limbaugh

Posted on 06/16/2011 4:34:23 PM PDT by lancer256

If you compare the Carter malaise with the Obama debt doomsday machine, any GOP 2012 presidential candidate should sail to victory with greater facility than Ronald Reagan did in 1980. But will she or he?

I am optimistic but also believe that in making his economic case, the Republican candidate will have different challenges because of the ongoing growth of our welfare state and the attitudes it has ushered in, along with heightened class warfare.

We could be seeing a paradigm shift in the way people view their social compact with government. More and more people believe that government exists not just to perform essential services as delimited in the Constitution, but as a grand equalizer of economic outcomes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidlimbaugh; liberals; obama

1 posted on 06/16/2011 4:34:27 PM PDT by lancer256
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To: lancer256

One answer for this concern: Live free or Die.

Easy answer, some great folks from the 18th century already figured it out!


2 posted on 06/16/2011 4:42:34 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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3 posted on 06/16/2011 4:47:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Unfortunately, many people think “live free” means somebody else pays your room and board.
4 posted on 06/16/2011 4:51:37 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: lancer256

The left and the Democratic Party has proven repeatedly that they are the traveling vacuum cleaner salesmen of the political world.

My first test of a politician is this question:

“Would I buy a used car from this person?”

Bill Clinton -No
Barack Obama -No
Harry Reid -No
Nancy Pelosi -No
Barney Frank -No
Anthony Weiner -No
John Edwards -No
John Kerry -No
Etc, etc. . . .


5 posted on 06/16/2011 4:59:03 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: lancer256

We’re already at the tipping point when you look at the percentage of Americans who A) pay no taxes, and/or B) live largely or exclusively off of Federal Govt. subsistence of one form or another (Welfare, disability, etc.).


6 posted on 06/16/2011 5:17:59 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: lancer256
I am saying that they are wholly unbothered by the obvious unfairness that almost 50 percent of the people pay no income taxes. And I am saying that most of them either don't understand that their prescriptions to equalize outcomes rather than opportunity inevitably result in less for everyone or don't care because they believe it's preferable for everyone to have much less than it is for some to have a great deal more than others under a free system.

Well said. The proponents of wealth redistribution do not care (or do not believe) that taking money from the rich will result in a less productive economy.

And to a certain extent why should they it can not be proven to be true. You can not turn back the clock and rerun the economy under free market rules and demonstrate that the economy was more profitable and more productive.

All we have is history and economic history is viewed differently by Liberal and Conservatives

Liberals look at the free(er) market days of Reagan and see growing deficits while Conservatives see record breaking government income.

But the simple fact is that any time government passes laws that attempt to force people to act against their natural human nature the results will be contrary to the intended outcome and most likely counter productive.

When government taxes the production of a good or service it creates a disincentive for the production of that product. If the tax is too high it may totally eliminate the production of that product or create a black market for that product.

Government’s intervention in the economy is nearly always counter productive. It certainly can not be shown to be productive in any historical example.

Economic productivity is maximized when government taxes minimally and people are free to pursue their own self interest with out government intervention.

7 posted on 06/16/2011 5:18:00 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

“Give me Liberty... or give me Death”

I ain’t BS’n.

LLS


8 posted on 06/16/2011 5:23:10 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES... a Conservative subsidiary of Reagan's party)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

“One answer for this concern: Live free or Die.”

The bitter truth is that we are rapidly approaching the point where more than 50% of the population will voluntarily and willingly choose the second option.

And another facet of that truth is that that percentage who would make such a choice is ethnically “different” from those who choose option A.

Such are the wages of “multiculturalism”, “diversity”, and uncontrolled immigration (both illegal AND legal).

The great and total error of “conservatives” is that they believe that EVERYone and ANYone (from ANYwhere and ANY nation) would behave as do the Euro-Americans, given the same choices. They do not.

It is such egalitarian fantasies that will lead (ARE leading) to the collapse of what is (and may soon be “was”) America.

Just sayin’.....


9 posted on 06/16/2011 6:24:48 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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He replied, “Yeah, the CEO of Disney ‘earned’ $50 million last year without the help of government through the invisible hand of the market.”

The answer to him — What about the earnings of Oprah, Barbara Streisand, Tiger Woods, Steve Spielberg, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, the Kennedy family, Warren Buffett, etc, etc, etc?


10 posted on 06/16/2011 7:06:35 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: lancer256
What the author may not realize, or just didn't addres is the fact that the social compact works two ways.

The great American experiment is founded upon the principle that men who work hard, are intelligent and frugal...would cede their absolute control of government and economy and allow others to work hard and join them.

If THAT part of the pact is broken and the lazy and stupid start seizing whatever they wish...this same class of men may just build a new government.

11 posted on 06/16/2011 7:43:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Pontiac
Liberals look at the free(er) market days of Reagan and see growing deficits while Conservatives see record breaking government income.

There is a reason for that. In 1986 the Democrats wanted a tax increase but they knew Reagan would veto it so they conned him. They told him that if he would sign the tax increase then they would cut spending $2 for every $1 in tax increase. He kept his word but the Democrats didn't. They never intended to and now they blame the resulting deficit on Reagan.

Liberal 'victims" don't care where the money comes from as long as it is given to them. Kill the goose that lays the golden eggs? That's the farmer's problem, not theirs.

12 posted on 06/17/2011 6:33:33 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: lancer256
Saw somewhere maybe here on FR a good take;

If the Dems are the party of the poor, isn't it best (for them)
to increase that constituency to ensure reelection!?!

13 posted on 06/17/2011 6:37:50 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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