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Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin? Either way, we could get our country back.
1 posted on 05/30/2011 4:18:34 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Cain as president, for sure. We want a man for Commander-in-Chief.


2 posted on 05/30/2011 4:20:05 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

44:7

6 posted on 05/30/2011 4:26:00 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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Awesome.


8 posted on 05/30/2011 4:27:09 PM PDT by RockinRight (Herman Cain stopped for gas in South Carolina and inadvertently won a Primary debate.)
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While I would be happy to vote for any combination of Republicans other than perhaps Hunter/Romney, the dream team (which I do realize will not happen) is West/Ryan. In that order.


9 posted on 05/30/2011 4:29:28 PM PDT by bluejay
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In 235 years, we have NEVER elected someone to the White House who had no federal elective or flag officer experience.


10 posted on 05/30/2011 4:30:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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‘...the Republicans’ best shot for a presidential win, staunch conservative Herman Cain...’

Huh???


16 posted on 05/30/2011 4:40:24 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Why Herman Cain Could Become America's First Black President

I won't play that game.

I would vote for a conservative Herman Cain. Not a "because he's black" Herman Cain.

If one shade of race creeps into his campaign all bets are off.

I want an American President, this time...If Herman Cain's the one, GREAT!

17 posted on 05/30/2011 4:40:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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How can you forget Bill Clinton, American’s REAL first Black (african/american) president?


19 posted on 05/30/2011 4:43:11 PM PDT by jocon307
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RE: Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin?

I don’t think the latter is possible. Palin will not settle for number 2 again.


22 posted on 05/30/2011 4:50:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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Sevastian has been an acquaintance of mine for almost two years. Sevastian is staunchly liberal on most of his positions especially on social issues. Though when it comes to the war on terror and such he does take a more common sense approach.

So Sevastian writing this article is very telling. And I think you may 100% correct on this.

PP


25 posted on 05/30/2011 5:04:00 PM PDT by psychopuppy
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Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin? Either way, we could get our country back.

I like the latter. That way, I can just scrape the 'Mc' off of my 2008 bumper sticker and change the date to 2012.

27 posted on 05/30/2011 5:11:58 PM PDT by Right Brother
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IMHO...

Herman Cain will provide the least motivation to Democrats to vote for nObama. A big part of elections is how much candidate A stirs up the party of candidate B to get out and vote, thus Increasing B’s votes - even if candidate B’s supporters are not particulary happy with candidate B.

Right now, the Repub candidate will have nObama to thank for rousing Republicans to the polls, so this effect will work for us from that point of view.

But the question really then becomes, how much will Democrats will be roused to come out and vote because they can’t stand the Republican candidate, even though they may be lukewarm on supporting nObama.

That is why a Repub candidate that has a large, dedicated following within their own base of supporters could easily lose the general election unless they have 2 things operating in their favor:

1) Get the left to have low voter turnout. The far left has to either think nObama will easily win, not see the Repub candidate as an arch enemy that they need to defeat at all costs, get confused on the issues, candidates or rhetoric so they don’t really feel an urgency to vote

2) Keep support of centrists away from nObama. The candidate has to keep nObama from finding a lot of support in the political center - where the fact that they are Republican and conservative will work against them. They must then gain support either through their personal likeability amongst moderates and centrists, state their conservative positions in such a way that it is hard for either conservative or centrist to find fault with them (classic political speaking, but if a mistake is made the candidate appears phoney), or simply appear to centrists as a safer or more comfortable alternative to nObama, even though their positions are conservative. Of course, if one professes to have principles, one has to abide by them or be branded a hypocrite, so the first and the last tacks are the ones to take.

Voter turnout is very often the key in elections; while having support of the base is critical to getting votes, not stirring up a hornet’s nest in the opposing camp is critical to reducing the opponent’s vote count.

This is why politicians seem to gravitate to the center and forget about principles; of course, it’s why Repubs morph into RINOs. In 2012, however, voters will be more desirous of a citizen politician than in a long time, which creates an opening for a conservative to be elected if their conservative message is comprehensive and unwavering, but at the same time not used as a lightning rod to provoke. Instead, the conservative ideas have to be developed in the grassroots so they can allow centrists to see them as normal, which is to defy the media and education establishments, so it must be done firmly and calmly. The real achievement will then be this public acceptance of a turn back to conservatism, even moreso than the election of a conservative President.


29 posted on 05/30/2011 5:19:51 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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More than any other candidate running, or reportedly thinking of running, Cain has the Reagan-like ability to inspire people with the belief that the American dream is still possible. This is the single most important quality in a leader. I see problems with Cain’s lack of foreign policy experience, and strongly disagree with notion that a plan for the WOT must wait until after he gets elected, but still see in him the one with the most leadership potential. He appears to be a quick learner, so I hope he can smooth over some of those rough spots.


36 posted on 05/30/2011 5:44:11 PM PDT by rob777
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Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin? Either way, we could get our country back.

Amen, amen and amen!!!
42 posted on 05/30/2011 5:51:25 PM PDT by no dems (If the GOP nominee has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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Yeah, but he won’t.

It’d be more likely that it’ll be Sarah Palin and Lt Col Allen West on the GOP Ticket.

West has more name recognition and he also rides a motorcycle.

Unlike Mr ‘sissy-bicycle-rider’ Obama.


43 posted on 05/30/2011 6:01:41 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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This is silly. America’s first Black president was Bill Clinton.


52 posted on 05/30/2011 7:09:19 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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>>Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin? Either way, we could get our country back.<<

I can point out the specifics of Mrs. Palins problems — problems that could be overcome in a Cain/Palin ticket — with her on the top of a 2020 ticket after 8 years of being the best damn VP we ever had — one who makes policy and then sees to it being carried out.

Cain can do it — of we all pull with him.


53 posted on 05/30/2011 7:12:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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Cain/Palin could put the White House into Republican hands for 16 years. I’d take it either way tho.


57 posted on 05/30/2011 7:21:51 PM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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Why Herman Cain Could Become America's First Black President

Forget it. The race card is already played.

58 posted on 05/30/2011 7:55:29 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Avoid arguments with your wife about lifting the toilet seat by simply using the sink.)
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“He is smart, straight forward, and you don’t get the sense that he’s lying to you when he opens his mouth.”

IOW, he’s NOT a politician.


71 posted on 05/31/2011 8:19:38 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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