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Mandatory vehicle 'black-boxes' under consideration
WRGB-TV ^ | 5/26/11

Posted on 05/26/2011 6:49:41 PM PDT by markomalley

The National Traffic Highway Safety Association expects to have a decision by the end of the year on whether all new vehicles will be required to have 'event data recorders' installed.

Known as 'black-boxes' the recorders collect vehicle data in the moments leading up to during, and after a crash. Unlike aircraft 'black-boxes' the vehicle data recorders do not make audio recordings.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; blackboxes; nannystate; nthsa; privacy
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See this Detroit News article for far more detail (cannot be posted per FR rules)

On down the short article it says:

…it has been used by law enforcement officials and insurance companies for the purposes of civil and criminal court cases.

Wonder when they will hook up these black boxes to GPS and cellular towers.

1 posted on 05/26/2011 6:49:43 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I think the government should require that the black boxes be dipped in gold and encrusted in diamonds.

After all, burden and cost is no object when it comes to regulation.


2 posted on 05/26/2011 6:53:23 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: markomalley

I’m sure it won’t take long - once they have that, won’t need speed traps or red light cameras any longer, a little software and the tickets can automatically flow based on the data from these things.


3 posted on 05/26/2011 6:55:42 PM PDT by utford
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To: markomalley
The National Traffic Highway Safety Association expects to have a decision by the end of the year on whether all new vehicles will be required to have 'event data recorders' installed.

They'll decide? Wonder what the punishment will be for disabling or removing them?
4 posted on 05/26/2011 6:56:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: markomalley
The National Traffic Highway Safety Association expects to have a decision by the end of the year on whether all new vehicles will be required to have 'event data recorders' installed.

Gee, there was once a time when our elected Representatives in congress would have to actually debate and pass a law to force costly mandates on an entire industry and take away large parts of our freedom. I guess we've just decided to dispense with that archaic formality and allow some unelected groups of government employees to create laws out of thin air.

5 posted on 05/26/2011 6:58:08 PM PDT by apillar
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To: markomalley

gotta have that “black box.....so ya can do this...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/31/oregon-governor-looking-at-gps-based-mileage-tax-to-fund-roads/


6 posted on 05/26/2011 6:58:37 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: markomalley

Obama’s abuse of the executive office continues.


7 posted on 05/26/2011 6:59:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: markomalley
Unlike aircraft 'black-boxes' the vehicle data recorders do not make audio recordings.

Imagine if they did . .


Wife: Slow down.
Husband: Why?
Wife: You're going too fast.
Husband: I'm going the speed limit. Do you want to drive?
Wife: No, freeways make me nervous.
Husband: Well, nagging makes me nervous.
Wife: You're just like your mother. I'm going to start calling you Helen.
Husband: You leave my mother out of this.
Wife: Slow down, Helen.
Husband: I should have listened to Mom when she told me you were good for nothing.
Wife: Well why didn't you just marry your mother, then? Slow down, Helen.
Husband: You think this is fast? (Presses the accelerator)
Wife: Dammit, Helen, you're going to get us killed! You missed the turn off.
Husband: I can still make it.

[Screeching. Screaming. Crashing. Steel twisting. Silence.]

8 posted on 05/26/2011 7:02:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: markomalley

Fry those effers in a few minutes. Fail.


9 posted on 05/26/2011 7:02:46 PM PDT by allmost
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To: mo

BINGO!


10 posted on 05/26/2011 7:02:48 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: markomalley

When I was 16 in the early 1980’s I told a friend that one day our (different but future) grandchildren would ask us ‘granddad, were you really free to drive where ever you wanted to, even off road, and nobody would know?”

It may well by my children asking me that.


11 posted on 05/26/2011 7:03:40 PM PDT by posterchild
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I just read that 65% of 2005 cars have these, and that they’ve been around since the 1990’s.

The recent Fed action just makes the data formats standard.

This is already being done to us.

Wonder how this ties in to the Federal Mileage Tax, eh?


12 posted on 05/26/2011 7:03:40 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: markomalley
completely unnecessary

will run the price of vehicles even higher

no thanks

13 posted on 05/26/2011 7:04:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: markomalley
‘Smith!’ yelled a voice from the telescreen. ‘6079 Smith W.! Hands out of pockets in the cells car!’
14 posted on 05/26/2011 7:05:22 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: cripplecreek
They'll decide? Wonder what the punishment will be for disabling or removing them?

I'm guessing they will probably be hard wired into the computers every vehicle has these days. I'm sure some enterprising hacker will quickly figure out a way to disable the sensors or something. As for the penalty, I'm sure it will be some totally over the top federal felony to scare people into submission like they did with the catalytic converters back in the 1980's.

15 posted on 05/26/2011 7:05:37 PM PDT by apillar
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To: markomalley

http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/1148/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-%C3%82%E2%80%98black-boxes%C3%82%E2%80%99


16 posted on 05/26/2011 7:05:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: utford

What you will see is something I once worked up and got my national insurance industry drooling over, but dropped the thing. Too intrusive, even for me. That was in 1989.

- Box records everything, controls everyting.
- Drivers licence is on a card.
- Designated DL is ignition key.
- Box tells central where car is and whose licence is in.
- Automated function to put demerits on your license.
- Central can designate where the license can and cannot go.
- Can lock down car if it’s in a no-go zone.
- And so on.

They liked this sh*t very much, and were a bit disappointed it was dropped. Anyway, now the tards seem to be catching up, one feature at a time. They’ll get there, eventually.


17 posted on 05/26/2011 7:10:40 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: markomalley

Low-techs will rule.


18 posted on 05/26/2011 7:11:00 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: apillar

Airbags, too, the issue of disconnecting them was a serious debate.


19 posted on 05/26/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: utford
A thing that can be done, can be undone.

Within a year or less after the first ones go online, there will be a way to disable them.

I'll have my popcorn ready for the first court case where the Gubmint tries to sue or prosecute such an individual who disables The Box on his new GM or Chrysler Turd Coupé

20 posted on 05/26/2011 7:14:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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