That's Sheriff Dupnik's domain.
Posted on 05/24/2011 1:55:37 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
TUCSON, Ariz. -- According to the lawyer defending the SWAT team that killed Jose Guerena, the Iraq war vet they shot 60 times in a raid was part of a home invasion ring. His family says prove it.
On May 5 members of the Pima County SWAT team were serving a search warrant at the Guerena family home.
The sheriff's department said the home was part of a narcotics conspiracy case.
"The information they had that there was an organization in town, a violent organization that was dealing in drugs, drug rip offs, home invasions," said attorney Michael Storie.
Storie will be representing the five SWAT members who fired more than 70 shots at Jose Guerena, ultimately killing him. Storie says, in Guerena's home, PCSD found exactly what they expected.
"They found body armor, they found guns, they found assault rifles at least a piece of a law enforcement uniform," said
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Raid my son's house and you will find the same thing. He is a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq and has many souvenirs.
Thank God he does not live in Tucson.
I would suggest it’s time to go after these judges who sign the search warrants. We never seem to realize that these guys are involved. Whoever this judge is...start an immediate recall and dump the guy.
As for the SWAT team existence...I’d go to the city or county council and demand funding be decreased. SWAT didn’t exist until the 1960s when L.A. invented the strategy. By the 1980s, almost every major town in America had one but they really didn’t have same issues as L.A. when it started. Now? You’ve got towns of fifty thousand residents where they have a SWAT team.
That's Sheriff Dupnik's domain.
That is the complete statement in the article. The copy writer failed to finish it by naming who gave that quote. At any rate none of that is evidence of anything unless they can somehow tie those things to a crime scene. If they could have I think they would have by now.
This was murder under the color of law and everyone involved, including the judge who signed the warrant (if there was one), should be tried for murder.
I hope this is the straw that gets Dupnik thrown out of office.
Are you for the police receiving information on possible criminal activity in your neighborhood and do nothing?
That works fine for me, too, as long as the police identify themselves before breaking in. The initial reports on this one sounded like the police were trying to stealthily break into the house at night.
Unannounced SWAT raids have to be severely cut back. I don't know whether they were warranted here, but as a general comment, when home invaders scream "Police" to suppress initial resistance as a common practice, you know that it's all too common for the police to bust in unannounced when serving warrants.
Were that the case in Tucson, it would have been publicized immediately, as soon as they realized their screw-up.
That it has taken them two weeks to manufacture half a dozen differing excuses, their credibility is less than zero.
It could be that the police, or SWAT, go to a house with a search warrant and find absolutely nothing in the house and leave.
The fact of what they found is only of interest in the case of this man being shot dead. The bottom line seems to be he was pointing a gun at the police. That is what got him killed, not what was found in the house.
“The bottom line seems to be he was pointing a gun at the police.”
No, the bottom line is the police stormed his house while he was asleep after working the night shift in a mine and his wife was screaming that people were invading their house. In his attempt to protect his family without knowing what was going on he was shot and killed without ever firing a shot.
Police routinely create situations where that is the likely outcome and it is unacceptable.
The only time SWAT should be allowed to raid a home essentually unannounced is when a crime is clearly known to be in progress such as a kidnapping. Otherwise the benefit of doubt has to go to the residence of the home with a search warrant.
In this case all they had to do was knock on the door when he was at work if they felt he was a potential danger. Instead they got the likely outcome of their actions - a dead suspect.
Agree...
Well said.
If I make up a rumor that he was involved with Animal Abuse, Arson, Assault, Auto Burglary, Battery, Bribery, . . . Sodomy, Solicitation for Prostitution, Stalking, Statutory Rape, Theft, Torture, Trespassing, Vandalism, and Vehicular Manslaughter, that makes it okay to shoot him 60 times in his own home, when he hasn’t fired a shot and may not have known the home invasion was being conducted by the police, doesn’t it?
When the police go to a judge for a search warrant they have to show why it is needed.
Are you for the police receiving information on possible criminal activity in your neighborhood and do nothing?
The bottom line seems to be he was pointing a gun at the police. That is what got him killed, not what was found in the house.
Either (a) you are naive beyond belief; or (b) are clueless as to the "real world;" or (c) are one of those who believe that Law Enforcement (Right or Wrong) can do no wrong; or (d) were or presently worked in some LE capacity.
Sure, maybe you might be watching cartoons at 4 or 5:00 a.m. when a bunch of Ninja-Wannabe, Jack-Booted THUGS, wearing their usual COWARDLY, face-covering mask while heavily armed, kick your door in and may even toss a flash bang and you will sit calmly by and not let it bother you or the fact (if you have one) that this "might" have terrified you family OR they may NOT be LEO's but home invaders?
Likewise, as someone who used to be a Fed Agent many moons ago, all I'll say is that while most LEO's will not resort to outright perjury or planting of evidence, when they seek a Search Warrant, MANY have been known to "Embellish" the information in the accompanying Affidavit, not too mention, how many times they rely on unreliable CI's (Confidential Informants) which often end up with erroneous information.
Sorry, but not for me!
As I have done nothing to warrant such conduct by any SWAT team, should this happen to me, I fear there will be untoward consequences and the results will not be favorable to me or (some of) them as I will do more than this poor Vet did by simply "pointing a gun at them," and my safety will be off and I won't be hesitating!
I may be all of the above and more, but one thing is certain - I am not dumb enough to point a gun at the police and even dumber to admit it (like you did).
Would you point a gun at home invaders you did not know were Police? Or do we now have to assume that anyone breaking into our home with a gun IS the police.
My attitude exactly.
If I have to get dead, I want to take one of the invaders with me.
Lately, I'm not seeing that it makes much of a difference either way.
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