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Presumed Innocent, Anyone? (Ben Stein on the Strauss-Kahn case)
spectator.org ^ | 5/18/2011 | spectator.org

Posted on 05/18/2011 6:51:19 PM PDT by mewykwistmas

"3.) The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn "forced" the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How? Did he have a gun? Did he have a knife? He's a short fat old man. They were in a hotel with people passing by the room constantly, if it's anything like the many hotels I am in. How did he intimidate her in that situation? And if he was so intimidating, why did she immediately feel un-intimidated enough to alert the authorities as to her story?

6.) People accuse other people of crimes all of the time. What do we know about the complainant besides that she is a hotel maid? I love and admire hotel maids....I am sure she is a fine woman. On the other hand, I have had hotel maids that were complete lunatics, stealing airline tickets from me, stealing money from me, throwing away important papers, stealing medications from me. How do we know that this woman's word was good enough to put Mr. Strauss-Kahn straight into a horrific jail? Putting a man in Riker's is serious business. Maybe more than a few minutes of investigation is merited before it's done.

7.) In this country, we have the presumption of innocence for the accused. Yet there's my old pal from the Ron Ziegler/ Richard Nixon days, Diane Sawyer, anchor of the ABC Nightly News, assuming that Mr. Strauss-Kahn is guilty. Right off the bat she leads the Monday news by saying that Mr. Strauss-Kahn is in Riker's... "because one woman stood her ground..." That assumes she's telling the truth and he's guilty. No such thing has been proved and it's unfortunate for ABC to simply assume that an accusation is the same as a conviction. .."

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#3 is why I am 99% sure she is lying. You cannot force someone to do that kind of sex in you. And you don't want to take that chance either.
1 posted on 05/18/2011 6:51:20 PM PDT by mewykwistmas
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To: mewykwistmas

8) All we know is what Big Media is telling us. That guarantees we don’t know the real story.


2 posted on 05/18/2011 6:54:19 PM PDT by DManA
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Oh, that one’s easy, especially in this economy.

“I am a rich and powerful international politician with diplomatic immunity. I stay here often. Have sex with me or I will get you fired, blacklisted from the hotels around here, and nobody will ever believe your claims.”

No weapon needed.


3 posted on 05/18/2011 6:54:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Is that what she said??? I haven’t even heard her ambulance chasing lawyer say that.

Maybe “you are rich and powerful and I am tired of working so I’ll accuse you and get a few million”?


4 posted on 05/18/2011 6:56:38 PM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: mewykwistmas

When was the last time Ben Stein has been right about anything related to economists and bankers?

2006ish?


5 posted on 05/18/2011 6:57:23 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: mewykwistmas

Presumed innocent? Of course. That’s why he is still breathing.


6 posted on 05/18/2011 6:58:14 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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I have no idea what she did or didn’t say. You were saying that a fat old man would need a physical weapon, and I was refuting it - no, he wouldn’t need a physical weapon.

I have no idea whether or not that’s what happened, but it’s still more than possible, so don’t discount point #3.


7 posted on 05/18/2011 6:58:40 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mewykwistmas

If you couple today’s journalism with human nature, we probably have no idea where the truth resides.


8 posted on 05/18/2011 6:58:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: mewykwistmas

A short fat man of any age is still a lot bigger and stronger than the widowed woman suffering from aides in question. And as an African Muslim she would be conditioned culturally to fear men.


9 posted on 05/18/2011 6:59:00 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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>You cannot force someone to do that kind of sex in you. And you don’t want to take that chance either.

The H3ll you can’t. - it happens every single day, and you should know that.
The jails are packed with thugs & assorted criminals who have done exactly that - and you should know that as well!


10 posted on 05/18/2011 7:01:05 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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There has been a string of complaints from women before this one so there is plenty of reason to credit this woman’s story. And Rikers is where they put felons who have been denied bail because they are flight risks - which he most certainly is since France refused to extradite Roman Polansky.


11 posted on 05/18/2011 7:01:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Innocent until proven guilty, but...

why did he change his story from I was having lunch with my daughter to consensual sex.

I can see what she has to gain, but why change to story?


12 posted on 05/18/2011 7:01:44 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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“I am a rich and powerful international politician with diplomatic immunity. I stay here often. Have sex with me or I will get you fired,

No. It doesn't work that way. Not ever. Guys who are rich and powerful don't need to do that. (even if they're very ugly)

13 posted on 05/18/2011 7:04:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: mewykwistmas

Ben Stein went off the tracks years ago.

The fact that he would jump into this ugly scene before we even know any facts is more evidence of that, why did he feel the compulsion to jump on this woman so early?

My impulse at this moment is sure not to take this creeps side.


14 posted on 05/18/2011 7:07:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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I hope you are being sarcastic, Ladyjane. Bill Clinton was accused of a lot worse and he was rich and powerful. Wealth and power do not a tyrant make, but it is also not a halo-maker.

I'll wait till the Jury comes back, like I always do, in cases of he said-she said.

15 posted on 05/18/2011 7:08:56 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often)
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So it comes out this AM she lives in an HIV positive housing complex.

Um...women in this situation usually acquire HIV from IV drug use, prostitution, where the latter supports the former.

Don't like Mr. Froggy Globalist Creepy. But the charge sure smells like a cheap frame.

Lotta people thought Condit offed the girl. Turned out to be an illegal alien murderer, years later. But that was totally discounted during the hysteria.

Just sayin'.

16 posted on 05/18/2011 7:09:17 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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Actually the woman didn’t know who he was - according to what the police have said.

I still think he probably did exactly what he was accused of, however.


17 posted on 05/18/2011 7:10:19 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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you wrote:

“Um...women in this situation usually acquire HIV from IV drug use, prostitution, where the latter supports the former.”

Not in Africa - which is where she is from. Most women there have gotten it from their cheating infected husbands and tainted needles used in immunizations.


18 posted on 05/18/2011 7:11:56 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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Let a jury presume him innocent until proven guilty, I'll think whatever I want about the little piece of sh*t.
19 posted on 05/18/2011 7:13:40 PM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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You wrote:

“You cannot force someone to do that kind of sex in you.”

Rapists have said otherwise. I also know a number of women who have said otherwise. Slap a woman, beat a woman, and scare the living daylights out of her and she will probably do exactly what you want. According to men who were raped by other men that is also the outcome in their cases as well.


20 posted on 05/18/2011 7:14:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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