Posted on 05/14/2011 7:04:25 AM PDT by petitfour
The wife of a Tucson man killed in a Pima County SWAT raid May 5 pleaded for five minutes with 911 dispatchers to send an ambulance for her mortally wounded husband, audio records show.
Often through tears and sometimes in broken English, Vanessa Guerena, tells 911 operators that her husband had been shot by a "bunch of people" who opened the door of their southwest-side home and "just shoot him." Meanwhile, dispatchers worked to determine if she was calling from a house where the SWAT team was serving a search warrant, audio released Friday by Drexel Heights Fire Department reveals. It takes about an hour for waiting medics to know what happened, and the man is dead before fire crews are allowed into the home.
Jose Guerena, 26, a former Marine, was sleeping after the graveyard shift at Asarco Mission mine about 9:30 a.m. when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and a man was at their window. Guerena told his wife to hide in a closet with their 4-year-old son, his wife has said. He grabbed an AR-15 rifle and moments later was slumped in the kitchen, mortally wounded from a hail of gunfire.
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I think there are too many swat teams
they have their uses but every podunk town and city don't need to have a SWAT team
Nope, not in the least over the top. It's getting to look like we have no other choice, doesn't it?
How else are we to protect ourselves?
What would that Marine (RIP) say to us now?
I’m just so sick about this. I was sick over the Costco incident in Las Vegas too, these murders by the police state are getting all too commonplace now.
How many of these "incidents" and blood spillage will have to happen before the public not only takes notice, but takes strong action?
Totally unacceptable. The line has been crossed.
Fish rot from the head down. Businesses and public service agencies rot from the top down. The Police Chief isn’t going to do anything not approved by the Mayor.
SWAT Teams can consist of 50 or more officers. Do you want one target or 50? When the Mayor gets scared he’ll cough up the evil doer(s) and throw them to the mercy of the Courts. That’s when a jury gets their chance to bring out the truth.
Was watching a video called “never get busted” done by a former DEA/former cop who wants to decriminalize weed (not really my fight but I was interested in the LE angle so I watched). He said that most cops arent in their line of work to “serve justice” but rather to keep getting that adrenaline rush from fights, car chases, guys who resist arrest, swat no-knock raids/party vans, etc. Has nothing to do with “upholding the law”. Their in it for the RUSH. It is like crack-cocaine.
I had a young local police officer tell me this directly last October, as we were hosting a "neighborhood watch" block party. We had an incident in our neighborhood about a year previous, and he was one of the cops who caught one of the perps who were stealing cars (and hiding out in our neighborhood).
There is no question about it, although we thanked him for a job well done, he told us that the pleasure was all his, that he and the others live for the adrenalin rush, and they would do it again in a heart beat.
This is why I always thought we couldn’t count on most LE to be on the people’s side, should it come to it. Seems too many will be more than happy to be hauling everyone off to the gulag.
Just like the LE national park rangers I knew, wanna-be cops who couldn’t make it, short men’s complex, making up for other deficiencies, you-name-it.
The mayor here is not only a buffoon, but a figure-head only. No one seems to be in charge of the People’s Republic of Tucson, although theoretically, it is the overpaid city manager.
That’s why they don’t like to do the mundane things that we the people pay them for.
Like patrol the middle-class neighborhoods more than once every six months, leaving them wide open to home invasions and non-stop burglaries and car thefts...
They don’t show up if your house has been robbed — people have to fill out their own paperwork here.
They don’t stop the arsonists or graffiti criminals, so the neighborhoods look 3rd world.
And they especially don’t like to sit at a corner for an hour to catch all the people and empty school buses tearing up and down residential streets, almost running kids and pets over, and with all the associated and illegal noise pollution.
We allow the police to relish “military cache” while belonging to a union…what do you expect?
Locally we have a city cop that has rung up 2.3 million in civil liability, while enjoying months of paid suspension during litigation. I say let him guard the back gate to the local landfill...or better yet fire the SOB!
There is no shortage of people who want they job, start firing.
I can say that the Pima County Sheriff’s department has a visible presence in this area. They are everywhere. I’ve always found it comforting though it does make me drive a bit more paranoid. But regular deputies doing their jobs are not the same as SWAT persons invading a house at 9:30am in a middle class neighborhood. We lived next door to a SWAT team member briefly. He moved. He abandoned his wife and young child. Hubby always thought he was psycho. I don’t know if he worked for the county or for the city.
I’ve grown up around cops and law enforcement personnel at various levels. For the most part, all seemed to be sane and trustworthy. I just think this particular incident was a grave error. I grieve for this widow and her young boys.
Jared Loughner was a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office, so he made a few (many) reported death threats. His mom worked for the County, I’m sure she’s a nice gal.
And, so it will go with these SWAT Officers.
I had to work around a security guard who practiced his quick draw (with a loaded revolver) on the tire of the aircraft we were working on, he also talked alot to himself.
It scared most of us, and we were so glad to see him leave.
Fixed that for ya.
You're welcome.
If 50 of the JBTs were on this raid, then yes. Finger every one of them.
If the legal system doesn't take care of this, we'll start doing it ourselves. Note, it's not a 'justice' system. Justice hasn't had anything to do with our courts for years.
Good point, great memory!!!
I read somewhere that this is indicative of a further militarization of police forces around the country...Some Veterans coming back from the war,some feel they need to keep up the edge, and get their “jazz” fix from raids like this...
Hmmm, aren’t we familiar with the Sheriff of Pima County? Isn’t he that left wing?
they try to defend these actions but NEVER stick around long enough to actually make a logical case, The Boot lickers CANNOT make a case for themselves so they do what tyrants do best, base all their arguments on EMOTIONS. With that being said, LIFE IN PRISON FOR EVERY LAST PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS COLD BLOODED EXECUTION, RIGHT UP TO THE CLERK THAT STAMPED THIS NEVER SEEN WARRANT.
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