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So Called Smart Meters Cause Health Problems, Invade Privacy
Eagle Forum morning update ^ | 5/25/11 | Megan Myers

Posted on 05/11/2011 7:17:18 AM PDT by GailA

(Smart for Who? Big Brother Strikes Again)

Generally speaking, people in California seem to accept new government programs with open arms, especially anything with the words 'green' or 'smart' attached to it. So Smart Meters seemed to be a no-brainer as they promised to make the planet greener and who doesn't want a smart electrical meter?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: government; smartmeters; tracking
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1 posted on 05/11/2011 7:17:20 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA; Nachum

PG&E’s “Opt Out” Plan a Trojan Horse- ‘Smart’Meter IS the Problem

http://stopsmartmeters.org/2011/03/25/pges-opt-out-plan-a-trojan-horse-the-smart-meter-is-the-problem/

Thousands of energy-saving light bulbs recalled [some 317,000 bulbs can overheat......]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2717926/posts?page=28


2 posted on 05/11/2011 7:18:42 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA

The libs laughed at me when I said PG&E would probably hike rates later to pay for this crap.

I just heard on the nooz the other day that PG&E is doing exactly that-at 7 percent!


3 posted on 05/11/2011 7:20:17 AM PDT by Califreak (You can't go swimming in a baseball pool)
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To: GailA

The important question for a dissertation, Can a population that is terminally wacko be degraded further by smart meters?


4 posted on 05/11/2011 7:22:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: GailA

Nobody in my area is “accepting” the Smart Meters. They are outraged. Many of them have seen their bills double as soon as those ghastly things were shoved into place.

My community is split, some of us are lucky enough to be free of Edison & not yet sentenced to Smart Meters.

People have raised so much hell about it, some are being removed.

The program is a nightmare.


5 posted on 05/11/2011 7:24:30 AM PDT by jazminerose (o)
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To: bert

There are a LOT of conservatives in CA, the OC for just one example, as well as San Diego.

We proudly claim a very large military population.

Many of us would like to escape but are unable to do so for career reasons.

Don’t paint with such a broad brush.


6 posted on 05/11/2011 7:26:39 AM PDT by jazminerose (o)
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To: GailA

This thing buys into the rather cranky health effects of RF theories, none of which have been proven.

And ANY electronic device plugged into house wiring will create a “signal”. Smartmeters are no exception, nor are they exceptional in this way. Your PC or TV set will do the same thing.

Millions of Smartmeters have been deployed in many countries and many locations in the US, with no measurable health effects.

That said, the utility permits health cranks and other silly people to bypass the meters. They are irrelevant. Smartmeters now are bout 80% deployed in California, and will, within a year or so, get to 95%.

And the real benefit of Smartmeters is to utilities - they replace human meter-readers.


7 posted on 05/11/2011 7:27:11 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: jazminerose

I am seriously skeptical that these gimcracks are any worse of a health risk than the average cell phone or TV transmitter. First I’d want to see somebody complaining about radio interference before thinking the emissions level was even close to enough to create health problems.

But it’s a no brainer that the electric company would find a way to turn this into a cash cow, or had that planned from the beginning.


8 posted on 05/11/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: GailA

The health issues are bogus IMHO. Our utility had a public forum a while back and the rep was prepared to talk about health issues. No one in the audience viewed that as an issue. The problems are privacy and security. No answers when presented with the issues outlined on the EPIC.org smartgrid pages.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 7:31:22 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: jazminerose

From what I have seen after investigating complaints of this sort is that nearly all cases are the result of people that had defective meters that ran slow now get accurate measurements. In other words they were previously being undercharged.

This kind of thing would happen whenever meters are replaced. The case here is that meters are being replaced wholesale, therefore giving hysterics the opportunity to get hysterical all together.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 7:31:59 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

This is where the chutzpah really hits you in the face. They know this means they can cut meter readers from the force and the system will pay for itself in a month or so. So do they show a credit on your electric bill to reflect the new efficiency? Oh, no, they stick a charge on there.


11 posted on 05/11/2011 7:32:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: buwaya

I wouldn’t necessarily bet on an old watt-hour meter being THAT slow. And who’s to say some of the smart meters aren’t fast?


12 posted on 05/11/2011 7:35:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: bert

no


13 posted on 05/11/2011 7:37:08 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: buwaya

Thousands more out of jobs.


14 posted on 05/11/2011 7:39:04 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA
My home recieved a smart meter last year and have not had problems or a spike on my bill... yet
15 posted on 05/11/2011 7:40:11 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Smartmeters are expensive. There are labor savings, but the cost of deployment will not be recovered for many years. The rate of return on these things (if implemented with reasonable efficiency) is in line with utilities cost of capital.
Other increasing costs are due to increased regulation. SOX, for instance, has cost utilities tremendous sums. California regulations and new Federal regulations (NERC, etc.) are also extremely expensive.


16 posted on 05/11/2011 7:40:34 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A few certainly are. Add a story here and there - coupled with the occasional spike due to things like adjustments to estimated usage charges during airconditioner season, etc., and you get an urban myth.


17 posted on 05/11/2011 7:43:11 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: GailA

You may want to try one of these to overcome the evil waves of that smart meter.

18 posted on 05/11/2011 7:43:44 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: buwaya

If a machine that digitally computes an integral and sends the result on a radio to a transmitter tied into the Internet needs more than $50 to build in China, then the electric company has some stupid engineers.


19 posted on 05/11/2011 7:47:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The meter itself isn’t the expensive part. Installation costs and the back end integration are the killers.


20 posted on 05/11/2011 7:50:51 AM PDT by buwaya
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