Aw, not this Mitt again!
Posted on 05/09/2011 5:52:02 PM PDT by shanevanderhart
COLUMBIA, S.C. The only Mormon in the South Carolina legislature is Alan Clemmons, a real estate lawyer from Myrtle Beach with a shiny bald head, natty suits, and a hyperactive Twitter feed.
Rep. Clemmons ardently supported Mitt Romney for president in 2008, raising money and rallying political support for the former Massachusetts governor. He is unlikely to do so again. Clemmons says hes distressed by the distance Romney has kept from the state since departing abruptly for Michigan just before the 2008 primary. And he finds the insinuation from some in Romneys circle that South Carolina has a religion problem particularly galling.
Hes making it tough on his South Carolina supporters to get behind him when he doesnt appear to be engaged in the South Carolina process, Clemmons told POLITICO. I just dont buy the religious bigotry in South Carolina that seems to be part of that message.
Mormons make up about 2 percent of the U.S population, but theyre closer to 30 percent of the Republican presidential primary field, where two clean-cut, handsome, moderate, millionaire former governors Romney and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman appear to be seeking the nomination. The biographical similarities between the two men are good for an easy joke one prominent South Carolina Republican referred to them as the Doublemint Twins but they are taking sharply different approaches to this state, and to a question haunting their supporters: Will the Christian conservative backbone of the Republican electorate in South Carolina and other states support a Mormon? And as Romney seeks to keep a deliberate distance from the state, Huntsman is ostentatiously waving him in, and telling him the waters fine.
The mystery of South Carolina is not whether some conservative Christians are suspicious of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a fact easy to establish in polls and casual conversation. Its whether there are enough of them to matter, and whether they are voters who might have been in Romneys or Huntsmans camp otherwise. Recent political campaigns have seen endless attention devoted to questions of prejudice that did not stop Barack Obama being elected president nor did it stop a woman who had recently converted from the Sikh faith from being elected governor of South Carolina last year.
This year will be very much like my election, Gov. Nikki Haley told POLITICO. It doesnt matter whether youre male or female or black or what your religion is.
Many in Romneys camp quietly disagree. His top aides, several allies said, view anti-Mormon views as a challenge in South Carolina, and its widely thought to be part of the reason hes keeping the state at arms length.
People will have to reluctantly admit that the Mormon issue was a bigger problem last time around than people would want to acknowledge, said Warren Tompkins, Romneys key consultant here in 2008 who is not working for him this cycle. A large part of [Gov. Mike] Huckabees success came at the expense of Gov. Romney being Mormon.
It was a problem for sure [in 2008], said Mark DeMoss, an Atlanta-based Christian public relations man and longtime Romney supporter. I dont think it kept him from being nominated but I think it was a problem for a lot of people.
DeMoss is more hopeful this time around.
As long as the economy is a serious issue, I think hes much more attractive given his credentials, and his faith becomes less of a concern, he said.
Romney is expected here May 21 for the first time in more than 200 days, and has been playing an intricate waiting game in the two heavily evangelical early states, South Carolina and Iowa a game of dampening expectations partly based on perceived resistance to his faith.
Now Huntsman appears determined to explode Romneys careful game. And Huntsmans key local consultant, Richard Quinn, has for weeks been delightedly suggesting that Romneys faith isnt a handicap but simply a crutch disguising other weaknesses.
Maybe thats his excuse maybe hes going to say were prejudiced against Mormons, Quinn said recently. I think its kind of a little bit of a slander about South Carolina that were going to rule out people that arent quite Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
Indeed, many local officials take real offense at the suggestion that Romney faces a special test.
I have lived here for 45 yrs, and [Utah Rep.] Jason Chaffetz, [Arizona Rep.] Jeff Flake two practicing Mormons in Congress would do extraordinarily well in the Upstate, said Rep. Trey Gowdy, who represents the conservative religious heartland of the Upstate where, he noted, Bob Jones III endorsed Mitt Romney last cycle.
If Romney didnt do well in 2008, it has nothing to do with faith, he said. I would look more at health care than faith.
To Clemmons, the Mormon legislator, who spoke admiringly Huntsman after meeting him for the first time this week, the suggestion of religious prejudice is entirely a laughing matter, and he interrupted a reporters interview with State House Speaker Bobby Harrell Friday evening with a joking suggestion: What you should have asked Bobby is whether South Carolina will ever elect a loathsome Mormon.
Huntsman, in his visit to the state this weekend, demonstrated none of the agonized caution around the religious question that characterized Romneys approach, which culminated in a December 2007 address on religion that mentioned his own Mormon faith just once. Huntsman is expected, an aide said, to accompany Rep. Tim Scott Sunday morning to the Seacoast Church in Charleston, a non-denominational Protestant megachurch that may be more hospitable to him than the Baptist precincts in the Upstate, but remains far from Salt Lake City.
Your complexion and your religion are secondary, Scott told POLITICO.
Mormons have been running for president of the United States ever since the religion was born in the middle of the 19th century. The faiths first prophet, Joseph Smith, was murdered by a mob in Illinois in 1844, five months into his race against James Polk and Henry Clay. (Mitt Romneys campaign has been better received, the Washington Post editorial board observed mildly in 2007). A generation ago, in a very different Republican Party, Michigan Gov. George Romney brought reporters along to a Latter-Day Saints service in Anchorage, Alaska, in the course of his presidential campaign, and told the New York Times, I am completely the product of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Stephen Hess and David Broder devoted 20 pages of their 1967 classic The Republican Establishment to George Romneys faith without once suggesting it would cost him Republican primary votes. The religious issue, they wrote, had been settled in the 1960 election, when the Quaker Richard Nixon received the same share of protestant votes as had Dwight Eisenhower. Mormonism, they wrote, helped explain the righteousness and self-righteousness that underlie Romneys unique appeal and at the same time cause so many of his political problems. It was, they suggested, the root of one particular problem: The conspicuous purity makes other Republicans squirm.
George Romneys son ran his 2008 campaign in another era, one in which evangelical Christian identification had become a political mainstay. In the tradition of South Carolinas overtly nasty politics, he faced direct questions and indirect innuendos, most notoriously a fake Christmas Card from his family to Republican activists decorated with a photograph of the modernist Mormon Temple of Boston spiced with archaic quotes from the Mormon tradition including, God the Father had a plurality of wives.
Though polls have found large numbers of respondents express discomfort with Mormons, the actual political impact of that view is unclear. For some of those people, it may not be a voting issue. For others, the moderate Romney (and Huntsman) was never an appealing candidate anyway. The most detailed statistical examination of polling on Mormonism was performed by an Australian academic, David Thomas Smith, who found in a draft paper published online last month that it was possible to statistically extract antipathy for Mormons from other views in public polling, and that generalized feelings about Mormons are the single most important factor in evaluations of Romney, even more so than party identification or ideology.
In an interview, though, Smith cautioned that the next race may not mirror the last.
Theres probably more awareness both of the fact that hes a Mormon and some of the policy position hes had in the past I dont know which of those is going to be foremost in peoples mind, he said.
Indeed, this is a very different South Carolina than the one that Romney abandoned four years earlier. Here, as elsewhere, the party has been rejuvenated by the small-government conservatism of the tea party. And here, perhaps more than anywhere else, the Republican Party has enthusiastically embraced a leadership of unprecedented ethnic diversity. Indeed, Haleys victory was assured, local pollsters say, when a state legislator referred to her by an ethnic slur, raghead, producing a wave of sympathy for Haley, who won an absolute majority in a three-way primary over two higher-ranking state figures.
Huntsman and Romney, though, will still have to reckon with some voters who believe strongly that they arent Christian, and are therefore less inclined to vote for them. Some of them gathered on a street corner in Greenville Thursday night, overlooking the site of the evenings presidential debate, to pray for a wise, conservative and Christian president.
After the prayers ended, and before the debate began, preacher Franklin Raddish and Chris Lawton, a local tea party leader who organized a large tea party gathering at a nearby hotel, carefully considered whether two of the Republicans likely to seek the presidency would meet those criteria.
I dont think Mormons are Christians I dont think they see Jesus Christ as a deity, Raddish said.
I care a little bit I wouldnt make it a final decision if someone was a Mormon or not, Lawton said. He has, though, made his final decision on Mitt Romney.
It doesnt have anything to do with his Mormonism its about flip-flopping, he said.
I thought Mormons weren’t allowed to play cards.
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2% of pop = 30% of GOP primary = 6-7% of pop voting in GOP primary? No wonder the Obamatrons are not worried. They will just cross over and pick another loser of a candidate again.
I think the Malibu Ken doll will have problems all over the country.
Amen Brother.
Please, Mitt. Go away. I know the dummycrats would love you on the ticket and the homosexuals that you’ve endorsed in the past think you’re great. . . plus, who can forget that stupid government-run health care that you approved, but just go away.
I think RomneyCare might also be a big problem. Funny how it’s always about some physical or religious difference with the MSM, you know, calling Republicans bigots while they completely ignore glaring policy problems.
My guess is the SC folks aren’t much interested in a big-government-worshiping Republican from Massachusetts as POTUS.
All problems connected to RomneyCare will succeed in preventing Mitt Romney from winning political office, ever again.
Me and about three fourths of the United States are sick and tired of the prejudice card being played. I don’t like Romney because of Romneycare, among many other things, not because he is a Mormon. I don’t like Obama because of Obamacare, among many other things, not because of his race. Romney is dead in the water if he even tries to pull out the “I’m a Mormon” card and we don’t want to hear it.
Aw, not this Mitt again!
Romney does not have a Mormon problem, he has a liberal problem.
Agreed.
LOL! I guess I didn’t know that. I know they can’t drink coffee which I find incredibly sad as it is God’s gift to us to show us that He loves us and wants us to be happy.
Completely agree!
Ugh... I wish he’d go away. Between the flipflopping and RomneyCare he is dead to me and it has nothing to do with his Mormon faith.
He does have nice hair though :).
Obviously they think the field is far less crowded than it is and put it at 6-7 candidates.
Cute.
Those who claim there isn't an anti-Mormon bias haven't been paying attention. It's definitely a factor, even the defining factor, for too many.
I'd like to see if he can defend RomneyCare and articulate why ObamaCare is bad while his plan wasn't or if he's learned something from it.
Fundamentally he has the problem of having been a MA Republican which means to appeal to the national base he has to move right and then defend his past positions. It's necessarily going to be ugly.
Romney doesnt have a South Carolina problem
he has a credibility problem
Its hard to be genuine when theres a liberal albatross around yer neck
I was responding to a comment that said 2% of the country was LDS, but that 2% makes up 30% of the primary voting pool for the GOP.
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