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Mitt Romney's South Carolina Problem
Politico ^ | 5/8/11 | Ben Smith

Posted on 05/09/2011 5:52:02 PM PDT by shanevanderhart

COLUMBIA, S.C. – The only Mormon in the South Carolina legislature is Alan Clemmons, a real estate lawyer from Myrtle Beach with a shiny bald head, natty suits, and a hyperactive Twitter feed.

Rep. Clemmons ardently supported Mitt Romney for president in 2008, raising money and rallying political support for the former Massachusetts governor. He is unlikely to do so again. Clemmons says he’s distressed by the distance Romney has kept from the state since departing abruptly for Michigan just before the 2008 primary. And he finds the insinuation from some in Romney’s circle that South Carolina has a religion problem particularly galling.

“He’s making it tough on his South Carolina supporters to get behind him when he doesn’t appear to be engaged in the South Carolina process,” Clemmons told POLITICO. “I just don’t buy the religious bigotry in South Carolina that seems to be part of that message.”

Mormons make up about 2 percent of the U.S population, but they’re closer to 30 percent of the Republican presidential primary field, where two clean-cut, handsome, moderate, millionaire former governors — Romney and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman — appear to be seeking the nomination. The biographical similarities between the two men are good for an easy joke – one prominent South Carolina Republican referred to them as the “Doublemint Twins” – but they are taking sharply different approaches to this state, and to a question haunting their supporters: Will the Christian conservative backbone of the Republican electorate in South Carolina and other states support a Mormon? And as Romney seeks to keep a deliberate distance from the state, Huntsman is ostentatiously waving him in, and telling him the water’s fine.

The mystery of South Carolina is not whether some conservative Christians are suspicious of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a fact easy to establish in polls and casual conversation. It’s whether there are enough of them to matter, and whether they are voters who might have been in Romney’s or Huntsman’s camp otherwise. Recent political campaigns have seen endless attention devoted to questions of prejudice that did not stop Barack Obama being elected president – nor did it stop a woman who had recently converted from the Sikh faith from being elected governor of South Carolina last year.

“This year will be very much like my election,” Gov. Nikki Haley told POLITICO. “It doesn’t matter whether you’re male or female or black or what your religion is.”

Many in Romney’s camp quietly disagree. His top aides, several allies said, view anti-Mormon views as a challenge in South Carolina, and it’s widely thought to be part of the reason he’s keeping the state at arm’s length.

“People will have to reluctantly admit that the Mormon issue was a bigger problem last time around than people would want to acknowledge,” said Warren Tompkins, Romney’s key consultant here in 2008 who is not working for him this cycle. “A large part of [Gov. Mike] Huckabee’s success came at the expense of Gov. Romney being Mormon.”

“It was a problem for sure [in 2008],” said Mark DeMoss, an Atlanta-based Christian public relations man and longtime Romney supporter. “I don’t think it kept him from being nominated but I think it was a problem for a lot of people.”

DeMoss is more hopeful this time around.

“As long as the economy is a serious issue, I think he’s much more attractive given his credentials, and his faith becomes less of a concern,” he said.

Romney is expected here May 21 for the first time in more than 200 days, and has been playing an intricate waiting game in the two heavily evangelical early states, South Carolina and Iowa – a game of dampening expectations partly based on perceived resistance to his faith.

Now Huntsman appears determined to explode Romney’s careful game. And Huntsman’s key local consultant, Richard Quinn, has for weeks been delightedly suggesting that Romney’s faith isn’t a handicap but simply a crutch disguising other weaknesses.

“Maybe that’s his excuse — maybe he’s going to say we’re prejudiced against Mormons,” Quinn said recently. “I think it’s kind of a little bit of a slander about South Carolina that we’re going to rule out people that aren’t quite Anglo-Saxon Protestants.”

Indeed, many local officials take real offense at the suggestion that Romney faces a special test.

“I have lived here for 45 yrs, and [Utah Rep.] Jason Chaffetz, [Arizona Rep.] Jeff Flake — two practicing Mormons in Congress – would do extraordinarily well in the Upstate,” said Rep. Trey Gowdy, who represents the conservative religious heartland of the Upstate where, he noted, Bob Jones III endorsed Mitt Romney last cycle.

“If Romney didn’t do well in 2008, it has nothing to do with faith,” he said. “I would look more at health care than faith.”

To Clemmons, the Mormon legislator, who spoke admiringly Huntsman after meeting him for the first time this week, the suggestion of religious prejudice is entirely a laughing matter, and he interrupted a reporter’s interview with State House Speaker Bobby Harrell Friday evening with a joking suggestion: “What you should have asked Bobby is whether South Carolina will ever elect a loathsome Mormon.”

Huntsman, in his visit to the state this weekend, demonstrated none of the agonized caution around the religious question that characterized Romney’s approach, which culminated in a December 2007 address on religion that mentioned his own Mormon faith just once. Huntsman is expected, an aide said, to accompany Rep. Tim Scott Sunday morning to the Seacoast Church in Charleston, a non-denominational Protestant megachurch that may be more hospitable to him than the Baptist precincts in the Upstate, but remains far from Salt Lake City.

“Your complexion and your religion are secondary,” Scott told POLITICO.

Mormons have been running for president of the United States ever since the religion was born in the middle of the 19th century. The faith’s first prophet, Joseph Smith, was murdered by a mob in Illinois in 1844, five months into his race against James Polk and Henry Clay. (“Mitt Romney’s campaign has been better received,” the Washington Post editorial board observed mildly in 2007). A generation ago, in a very different Republican Party, Michigan Gov. George Romney brought reporters along to a Latter-Day Saints service in Anchorage, Alaska, in the course of his presidential campaign, and told the New York Times, “I am completely the product of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”

Stephen Hess and David Broder devoted 20 pages of their 1967 classic “The Republican Establishment” to George Romney’s faith without once suggesting it would cost him Republican primary votes. The “religious” issue, they wrote, had been settled in the 1960 election, when the Quaker Richard Nixon received the same share of protestant votes as had Dwight Eisenhower. Mormonism, they wrote, helped explain “the righteousness and self-righteousness that underlie Romney’s unique appeal and at the same time cause so many of his political problems.” It was, they suggested, the root of one particular problem: The “conspicuous purity makes other Republicans squirm.”

George Romney’s son ran his 2008 campaign in another era, one in which evangelical Christian identification had become a political mainstay. In the tradition of South Carolina’s overtly nasty politics, he faced direct questions and indirect innuendos, most notoriously a fake Christmas Card from his family to Republican activists decorated with a photograph of the modernist Mormon Temple of Boston spiced with archaic quotes from the Mormon tradition including, “God the Father had a plurality of wives.”

Though polls have found large numbers of respondents express discomfort with Mormons, the actual political impact of that view is unclear. For some of those people, it may not be a voting issue. For others, the moderate Romney (and Huntsman) was never an appealing candidate anyway. The most detailed statistical examination of polling on Mormonism was performed by an Australian academic, David Thomas Smith, who found in a draft paper published online last month that it was possible to statistically extract antipathy for Mormons from other views in public polling, and that “generalized feelings about Mormons are the single most important factor in evaluations of Romney, even more so than party identification or ideology.”

In an interview, though, Smith cautioned that the next race may not mirror the last.

“There’s probably more awareness both of the fact that he’s a Mormon and some of the policy position he’s had in the past – I don’t know which of those is going to be foremost in people’s mind,” he said.

Indeed, this is a very different South Carolina than the one that Romney abandoned four years earlier. Here, as elsewhere, the party has been rejuvenated by the small-government conservatism of the tea party. And here, perhaps more than anywhere else, the Republican Party has enthusiastically embraced a leadership of unprecedented ethnic diversity. Indeed, Haley’s victory was assured, local pollsters say, when a state legislator referred to her by an ethnic slur, “raghead,” producing a wave of sympathy for Haley, who won an absolute majority in a three-way primary over two higher-ranking state figures.

Huntsman and Romney, though, will still have to reckon with some voters who believe strongly that they aren’t Christian, and are therefore less inclined to vote for them. Some of them gathered on a street corner in Greenville Thursday night, overlooking the site of the evening’s presidential debate, to pray for a wise, conservative and Christian president.

After the prayers ended, and before the debate began, preacher Franklin Raddish and Chris Lawton, a local tea party leader who organized a large tea party gathering at a nearby hotel, carefully considered whether two of the Republicans likely to seek the presidency would meet those criteria.

“I don’t think Mormons are Christians – I don’t think they see Jesus Christ as a deity,” Raddish said.

“I care a little bit – I wouldn’t make it a final decision if someone was a Mormon or not,” Lawton said. He has, though, made his final decision on Mitt Romney.

“It doesn’t have anything to do with his Mormonism – it’s about flip-flopping,” he said.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: huntsman; mitt; mittromney; mormoaner; mormoaning; mormophobia; mormophobic; romney; socialconservatives; southcarolina
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I don't think playing the Mormon card's going to work for him.
1 posted on 05/09/2011 5:52:05 PM PDT by shanevanderhart
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To: shanevanderhart

I thought Mormons weren’t allowed to play cards.

;-)


2 posted on 05/09/2011 5:55:08 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: shanevanderhart

2% of pop = 30% of GOP primary = 6-7% of pop voting in GOP primary? No wonder the Obamatrons are not worried. They will just cross over and pick another loser of a candidate again.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 5:55:19 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: shanevanderhart

I think the Malibu Ken doll will have problems all over the country.


4 posted on 05/09/2011 5:57:09 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: shanevanderhart
“It doesn’t have anything to do with his Mormonism – it’s about flip-flopping,” he said.

Amen Brother.

5 posted on 05/09/2011 5:58:20 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: shanevanderhart

Please, Mitt. Go away. I know the dummycrats would love you on the ticket and the homosexuals that you’ve endorsed in the past think you’re great. . . plus, who can forget that stupid government-run health care that you approved, but just go away.


6 posted on 05/09/2011 6:01:02 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: shanevanderhart

I think RomneyCare might also be a big problem. Funny how it’s always about some physical or religious difference with the MSM, you know, calling Republicans bigots while they completely ignore glaring policy problems.

My guess is the SC folks aren’t much interested in a big-government-worshiping Republican from Massachusetts as POTUS.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 6:05:24 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: shanevanderhart

All problems connected to RomneyCare will succeed in preventing Mitt Romney from winning political office, ever again.


8 posted on 05/09/2011 6:10:11 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: shanevanderhart

Me and about three fourths of the United States are sick and tired of the prejudice card being played. I don’t like Romney because of Romneycare, among many other things, not because he is a Mormon. I don’t like Obama because of Obamacare, among many other things, not because of his race. Romney is dead in the water if he even tries to pull out the “I’m a Mormon” card and we don’t want to hear it.


9 posted on 05/09/2011 6:15:06 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: shanevanderhart

Aw, not this Mitt again!


10 posted on 05/09/2011 6:21:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: shanevanderhart

Romney does not have a Mormon problem, he has a liberal problem.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 6:28:13 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: dajeeps

Agreed.


12 posted on 05/09/2011 6:59:56 PM PDT by shanevanderhart
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To: Emperor Palpatine

LOL! I guess I didn’t know that. I know they can’t drink coffee which I find incredibly sad as it is God’s gift to us to show us that He loves us and wants us to be happy.


13 posted on 05/09/2011 7:01:13 PM PDT by shanevanderhart
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Completely agree!


14 posted on 05/09/2011 7:02:56 PM PDT by shanevanderhart
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To: shanevanderhart

Ugh... I wish he’d go away. Between the flipflopping and RomneyCare he is dead to me and it has nothing to do with his Mormon faith.

He does have nice hair though :).


15 posted on 05/09/2011 8:04:07 PM PDT by conservativehawkeye
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To: Ingtar
Read again. The article said just two candidates = 30% of the GOP presidential candidate field.

Obviously they think the field is far less crowded than it is and put it at 6-7 candidates.

16 posted on 05/09/2011 8:50:36 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I thought Mormons weren’t allowed to play cards.

Cute.

Those who claim there isn't an anti-Mormon bias haven't been paying attention. It's definitely a factor, even the defining factor, for too many.

I'd like to see if he can defend RomneyCare and articulate why ObamaCare is bad while his plan wasn't or if he's learned something from it.

Fundamentally he has the problem of having been a MA Republican which means to appeal to the national base he has to move right and then defend his past positions. It's necessarily going to be ugly.

17 posted on 05/09/2011 9:02:36 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: shanevanderhart

Romney doesnt have a South Carolina problem

he has a credibility problem

Its hard to be genuine when theres a liberal albatross around yer neck


18 posted on 05/09/2011 9:20:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: newzjunkey

I was responding to a comment that said 2% of the country was LDS, but that 2% makes up 30% of the primary voting pool for the GOP.


19 posted on 05/10/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: conservativehawkeye
"He does have nice hair though :)."



So did Liberace......
20 posted on 05/10/2011 10:51:46 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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