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Drug thugs called greatest security threat in the Americas
Miami Herald ^ | 05/07/11 | MIMI WHITEFIELD

Posted on 05/07/2011 9:03:01 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

Gen. Douglas Fraser, head of the U.S. Southern Command, says a long fight is ahead in combating transnational criminal organizations in the region. * * * Fraser said Mexican cartels have representatives in more than 230 U.S. cities and lamented that many people in the United States don’t recognize U.S. drug demand “as a threat to our security.’’

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1 posted on 05/07/2011 9:03:04 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Reliving the mistakes of the 1920s, one day at a time.....


2 posted on 05/07/2011 9:08:24 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: AtlasStalled

The REAL threat is and has been the MORONS in government who have permitted our sieve-like southern border to pour these criminals in here in the first place.

And when the next dirty nuke or biological attack comes down, killing thousands of us, take comfort in knowing that the device(s) used were almost certainly hauled across the Rio Grande by muzzies masquerading as amigos.

Is this a great country or what?


3 posted on 05/07/2011 9:09:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (2012 CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH FOR ME. HOW ABOUT YOU?)
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To: AtlasStalled
They exaggerate.

The War on Some Drugs is working perfectly.

Just because narcotics dollars have enabled the traffickers to be better armed and funded than every nation south of our border and engulfed them in a sea of violence and corruption doesn't mean it's going to happen here, and it certainly doesn't mean we should change anything we are doing.

If anything, we should make more substances illegal so the traffickers can expand their markets. What's good for the drug dealers is good for the War on Some Drugs.

4 posted on 05/07/2011 9:12:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Under Islam, there is no separation of church and state. The church IS the state.)
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To: AtlasStalled

The greatest threat lives in the White House.


5 posted on 05/07/2011 9:13:57 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Right. None of this would be happening if this stuff was legal.


6 posted on 05/07/2011 9:16:27 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: AtlasStalled
1) Tie drug tests to government entitlements. Test positive? No housing, no welfare, no medical care. Nothing.
2) Legalize all drugs.

The order of these steps is important.

If people want to use drugs, then they need to take full responsibility for the outcomes. I don't want the State to be their parent -- and that cuts both ways.

7 posted on 05/07/2011 9:18:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: AtlasStalled
Good article, thanks.

I think that our legal system is at crisis point right now.

US criminal laws and court precedents are designed to cover mostly individual criminals.

Organized crime was a problem and RICO laws were put on the books to try to give the legal system a way to handle “organized crime.”

What we have today is highly organized criminal enterprises, that have bought politicians, police (in Mexico), and military influence and further have through the use of military trained mercenaries and those they train from the ranks of criminals created international terrorist organizations.

When criminal drug cartels, have the protection of the Mexican military, have former Mexican special forces hit men, have rocket propelled grenades, submarines, and other equipment, we are talking about something that needs to be fought in a different venue and by different rules than the local sheriff getting a complaint from a citizen about something odd happening along a road.

Going after the drug cartels only addresses the supply side of the equation and not the demand side.

The phase “War on Drugs” needs to be either taken real seriously and we need to establish a military “kill on sight” approach to the supply side of the problem or we need to rethink the total approach.

I was talking to a friend and we were discussing how as long as there was huge money to be made in drugs and a huge US source of people in the US willing to pay for those drugs, that things would be difficult (i.e. the demand side). Lately this country has focused mostly on stopping the supply of drugs.

To some extent we have at time in various places worked hard as a society to put drug users in jail. Currently, the damage to society by drug users, doesn't seem to cause political pressure or peer pressure on the users to stop them. Currently, putting drug users in jail as a deterrent to use doesn't seem to be working well.

The drug supply issue has become a problem requiring a “military response” that has not yet been legislated and accepted by the public. Similarly, the supply side of the problem has not been adequately addressed. When drug use brings shame and forced prison conditions that people fear, then the problem will be controlled.

The only other reasonable alternative, I see is to decriminalized it and turn drug supply over to large corporations with tight government regulation (which really doesn't appeal to me). While one may think that the various drug cartels are ruthless, I think that given the millions in potential profits, once could count on Phillip Morris, and other major corporations driving the illegal gangs out of business.

8 posted on 05/07/2011 9:26:15 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: AtlasStalled

Raid the Mexican drug lords like they went after Osama in Pakistan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkMX9Mle-0


9 posted on 05/07/2011 9:26:53 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your idea of making a positive drug test reason for denial of government entitlement benefits is something that would probably work, if the “bleeding hearts” could stomach it.

Good suggestion.


10 posted on 05/07/2011 9:29:06 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ClearCase_guy
) Tie drug tests to government entitlements. Test positive? No housing, no welfare, no medical care. Nothing.

The Florida legislators are debating a bil that will do just that. The howling from the left is deafening. Of course, only "racists" would conceive of a law like that. I have to say, what took so long?

11 posted on 05/07/2011 9:30:30 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Comment removed by moderator)
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To: KoRn

But the drug war is providing good govt. jobs, and...it helps the economy by keeping lawyers and prisons flush with cash.


12 posted on 05/07/2011 9:38:15 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The greatest threat lives in the White House.

The greatest threat is this country's electorate.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

13 posted on 05/07/2011 9:46:12 AM PDT by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to Jihad is Crusade.)
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To: AtlasStalled
The greater threat is that Hezbollah has established themselves with the Mexican Cartels. They have significant presence in Tijuana just outside San Diego. And you wonder why they are beheading people. The drug trade is supporting not just drugs but terrorists who have access to US cities, just as the cartels do.

click here

14 posted on 05/07/2011 9:53:30 AM PDT by BigFinn
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To: Robert357; ClearCase_guy
I would also make it mandatory that ALL govt. employees, elected officials and judges take random drug tests.

Fail, and your gone!

15 posted on 05/07/2011 9:56:12 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: AtlasStalled

Institute Ike’s “Operation Wetback” on a national scale. Heck, privatize the operation. Let citizens collect a bounty.


16 posted on 05/07/2011 9:59:45 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: unixfox
I would agree with that, In fact, I almost put it in my original post but decided to simplify what I was trying to say.
17 posted on 05/07/2011 10:01:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If anything, we should make more substances illegal so the traffickers can expand their markets. What's good for the drug dealers is good for the War on Some Drugs.

This can be over in six months under my plan:

Make it abundantly clear that regular/professional drug traffickers will be gunned down without due process by our carefully hand-selected trigger happy feral LEOs. The drugs will be said to immediately be destroyed. Allow illegal aliens who are forced by the drug cartels to ferry in drugs to continue on unmolested, they can keep the drugs and continue on without harassment or without confiscation.

During this couple of months of conditioning, the drug cartels will recognize that using "hostages" to run their drugs is the most profitably and reliable mechanism. In the meantime, all of the seized drugs from the professionals is laced with incredibly toxic poisons and redistributed to the LEO offices along the trafficking routes.

Silently the LEOs are then authorized to continue gunning down professionals and upon interception of the "hostage" mules, they will swap the contraband for the always-lethal contraband, allowing the mules to continue on with the understanding that "nothing happened" or the illegals will be promised the same treatment as the professionals. There should be a high compliance rate here.

Let the tainted drugs work their way through the system and Darwin rid us of this menace. Continue intercepting and swapping drugs with the killer drugs until the problem is greatly diminished.

We will save hundreds of billions in welfare, medical and incarceration costs, will make the ZPG ecstatic, and please the Margaret Sanger crowd to no end. In the meantime, the political class will continue to have their untainted narcotics at near zero cost so this will help protect that mechanism.

Unfortunately, our government profits incredibly from contraband trafficking so for a while, the payolla will have to be dealt out as a form of Methadone for government addicted to drug money proceeds.

18 posted on 05/07/2011 10:02:32 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Legalize all drugs and you have more Mexican cartels representatives.
When you have someone hooked on something you can have them do anything you want,drugs or booze your owned due to your own weakness and others will pay for it.


19 posted on 05/07/2011 10:02:57 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: AtlasStalled

That is BS.

Drugs are a threat but Islam is the problem.

This reminds me of Napolitano calling domestic (White Boy McVeigh style) unrest as big a danger as Islam.


20 posted on 05/07/2011 10:04:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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