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Progressive Satanic Revolt: From Nothingness to Worship of Satan
Renew America ^ | May 3, 2011 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 05/04/2011 4:14:30 AM PDT by spirited irish

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Puckster
Hobbes is nice, but I prefer Calvin and Hobbes.

However, I can't think of an appropriate strip to post, so let me segue over onto Shakespeare:

Send me a cool rut-time, Jove, or who can blame me to piss my tallow? Who comes here? my doe?

(Fairies appear shortly thereafter to pinch him...)

...speaking of that, Puck, shouldn't you be over in A Midsummer Night's Dream?

Cheers!

21 posted on 05/04/2011 4:18:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; spirited irish; Quix
Time to quote C.S. Lewis again.

From That Hideous Strength:

The physical sciences, good and innocent in themselves, had already, even in Ransom's own time, begun to be warped, had been subtly manoeuvered in a certain direction. Despair of objective truth had been increasingly insinuated into the scientists; indifference to it, and a concentration upon mere power, had been the result. Babble about the élan vital and flirtations with panpsychism were bidding fair to restore the Anima Mundi of the magicians. Dreams of the far future destiny of man were dragging up from its shallow and unquiet grave the old dream of Man as God. The very experiences of the dissecting room and the pathological laboratory were breeding a conviction that the stifling of all deep-set repugnances was the first essential for progress. And now, all this had reached the stage at which its dark contrivers thought they could safely begin to bend it back so that it would meet that other and earlier kind of power. You could not have done it with Nineteenth-Century scientists. Their firm objective materialism would have excluded it from their minds; and even if they could have been made to believe, their inherited morality would have kept them from touching dirt. MacPhee was a survivor from that tradition. It was different now. Perhaps few or none of the people at Belbury knew what was happening; but once it happened, they would be like straw in fire. What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men? The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate. Bad men, while still in the body, still crawling on this little globe, would enter that state which, heretofore, they had entered only after death, would have the diuturnity and power of evil spirits. Nature, over all the globe of Tellus, would become their slave; and of that dominion no end, before the end of time itself, could be certainly foreseen.

(Full disclosure: no paragraphs in original source, either. Don't blame me.)

Cheers!

22 posted on 05/04/2011 4:44:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Caddyman

Ping.


23 posted on 05/04/2011 7:23:26 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Adonai)
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To: grey_whiskers

Lewis at his well done again.

I know . . . a literary style of paragraphing. Sheesh . . .


Time to quote C.S. Lewis again.

From That Hideous Strength:

The physical sciences, good and innocent in themselves, had already, even in Ransom’s own time, begun to be warped, had been subtly manoeuvered in a certain direction. Despair of objective truth had been increasingly insinuated into the scientists; indifference to it, and a concentration upon mere power, had been the result.

Babble about the élan vital and flirtations with panpsychism were bidding fair to restore the Anima Mundi of the magicians. Dreams of the far future destiny of man were dragging up from its shallow and unquiet grave the old dream of Man as God. The very experiences of the dissecting room and the pathological laboratory were breeding a conviction that the stifling of all deep-set repugnances was the first essential for progress.

And now, all this had reached the stage at which its dark contrivers thought they could safely begin to bend it back so that it would meet that other and earlier kind of power. You could not have done it with Nineteenth-Century scientists. Their firm objective materialism would have excluded it from their minds; and even if they could have been made to believe, their inherited morality would have kept them from touching dirt.

MacPhee was a survivor from that tradition. It was different now. Perhaps few or none of the people at Belbury knew what was happening; but once it happened, they would be like straw in fire. What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men?

The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate.

Bad men, while still in the body, still crawling on this little globe, would enter that state which, heretofore, they had entered only after death, would have the diuturnity and power of evil spirits. Nature, over all the globe of Tellus, would become their slave; and of that dominion no end, before the end of time itself, could be certainly foreseen.


24 posted on 05/04/2011 8:05:59 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: grey_whiskers; Alamo-Girl; xzins; spirited irish; Quix; LeGrande; James C. Bennett
What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men? The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate.

May God ever bless C. S. Lewis, so beloved to me as the exemplification of Christian Realism, as evident in his writings, in his quiet yet profoundly efficacious evangelism....

Thank you so very much, grey_whiskers, for letting Lewis speak to us again, through your post.

To me, the man is blessed, now and always.

25 posted on 05/04/2011 9:08:14 PM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop; grey_whiskers
Indeed, C.S. Lewis is blessed and a blessing to us.

Thank you so much, dear grey_whiskers, for bringing the excerpt to this thread!

26 posted on 05/04/2011 9:26:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I agree with both of you.

However, there’s a stray puzzle piece in my mental archives . . .

someone’s trip to Heaven included a dialogue with a famous Christian writer—I took it to mean C.S. Lewis though the Heaven visitor refused to say who it was. It seemed to me that their description MOST PROBABLY only fit Lewis. It is conceivable it was someone else, however.

Anyway—whoever it was—considered all their writings as dross, chaff, grossly inadequate for the cause of the Gospel. And, they were reportedly in the lower ranks of Heaven for whatever reason(s).

I remember reading that and being rather stunned at the time. An interesting mystery anyway.


27 posted on 05/04/2011 9:47:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; betty boop
I cannot think of any Christian writer who would consider his work as adequate for the cause of the Gospels.

The words of God are spirit and life. The words of men are neither spirit nor life.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. - Hebrews 4:12

Nor can I imagine a Christian being concerned about rank, i.e. any personal recognition or credit.

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God. - Mark 10:18

God's Name is I AM.

28 posted on 05/04/2011 10:15:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

AGREED.

And both points seemed to be the current heaven bound attitude of the graduated Christian writer.


29 posted on 05/04/2011 10:19:02 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Praise God!!!
30 posted on 05/04/2011 10:20:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: grey_whiskers

Well.....some catch me in a Midsummers Day Dream....in which case....Puck isn’t the word they Expletive-deletive at me??????


31 posted on 05/05/2011 12:55:13 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: spirited irish

BTTT and placemark for pingout!


32 posted on 05/05/2011 10:31:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

ping!


33 posted on 05/06/2011 3:07:15 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
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I like to ping Linda Kimball's articles after I've read them carefully so I can add my teensy little .02 tp the discussion - haven't had time to read this sufficiently but am pinging it out as it needs to get Out There to the list! I hope to get back in a bit after taking the time needed to digest it. One very small .01 - not even the old copper kind - I've seen on a church sign board "There's a God Shaped Hole in Everyones' Heart" and that is a fact. If we do not worship Him, we will worship something else, and that always leads to disaster.

34 posted on 05/06/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

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36 posted on 05/06/2011 9:48:59 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: kimmie7; spirited irish

Did you mean to write a comment or were just placemarking?

I’ve had a couple of really busy/awful days and will read Linda Kimball’s article carefully tomorrow. Her articles are like huge dinners with many dishes and need a bit of time and reflection to take in.


37 posted on 05/06/2011 9:53:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: spirited irish
or as Marx put it, toward the destruction of everything that exists.

I have thought that Satan's real goal is not to be king of all things and to allow for rebellion throughout all of eternity but rather his goal is to simply vanish into absolutely nothingness. The Bible says that God's name is I AM. The opposite of being is not being, not existing. It is possible that Satan knows that he cannot overcome God and rule but rather than spend eternity in the lake of fire suffering horribly forever and ever he much rather the alternative which is to simply vanish. He may figure that if he can cause The LORD to fail in any way that all of existence would come apart and simply cease to exist. I have thought this because I have wondered, when Satan must know he is defeated, why he keeps trying and what possibly he would hope to accomplish. It is possibly that if The LORD failed in any way, which we know is impossible and will not happen, that all would cease to exist is his true hope and plan.

38 posted on 05/07/2011 1:16:56 AM PDT by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: spirited irish
Chapter 1, the Almanac of Evil is a lengthy criminal indictment levied against the Roman Catholic Church, Popes, St. Irenaeus, and St. Paul, St. Luke, and the other Apostles. The crime of the Apostles? Setting up a criminal enterprise called Christianity: http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0010.htm"

I seems that the professional anti-Catholics who make their living publishing and otherwise distributing lies about His Church think that as Christians siding with Satan on some issues is an acceptable expedient. Either that or they're only claiming to be Christian in order to reach audiences who would otherwise ignore them.

It's a real shame how easily Satan gathers allies who, while they claim to be following Christ, readily soak up Satan's lies. Satan will almost always nudge that sort of folks into accepting the same lie he told Eve, that their eyes have been opened and their own understanding is sufficient.

"Peter Jones, author of "Spirit Wars: Pagan Revival in Christian America" connects progressive Christian Liberalism to ancient devilish Gnosticism, saying they are kindred-spirits. He points to progressive Liberalism as the carrier of the occult spiritual virus (satanic revolt) into the Body of the Church where it acts to divide Christians against each other."

When the only real limit on the interpretation of Scripture is, "to thine own self be true", Gnosticism is bound to creep in as a way for the individual to explain away the vast number of different interpretations that don't agree with their own. Claiming to have special knowledge makes it easy to ignore everything that might limit their behavior or in some way make them feel uncomfortable. From there, it's only a small step to accepting occult beliefs as equal to Christian beliefs.

39 posted on 05/07/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: little jeremiah

Just planting a bookmark. ;-)


40 posted on 05/07/2011 4:33:33 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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