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Progressive Satanic Revolt: From Nothingness to Worship of Satan
Renew America ^ | May 3, 2011 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 05/04/2011 4:14:30 AM PDT by spirited irish

Haters of God, 2 Tim. 3:2

Our war is against God and the world created by Him, declared Karl Marx, father of the Communist Manifesto. In his poem, "The Pale Maiden" he admits that he has willfully opted for Hell:

"Thus heaven I've forfeited; I know it full well; My soul, once true to God; Is chosen for hell." (Marx & Satan, Richard Wurmbrand, p. 22)

"The Evil One is the satanic revolt against divine authority....Socialists recognize each other by the words, "In the name of the one to whom a great wrong has been done....Satan (is) the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds." (Mikhail Bakunin, comrade of Marx, ibid, p. 27)

"We do not fight against believers (or) even clergymen....We fight against God to snatch believers from Him." (Vetchernaia Moskva, a Communist newspaper, ibid, p.77)

The Satanic revolt, like orthodox Christian faith is a movement of spirit having its taproot and energy in Satan, the father of lies and envy, the author of rebellion, and the revelator of secrets.

Satanic revolt is war against the Trinity...the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which in Bakunin's words are the "cursed and fatal principle of authority." Thus it proclaims the reign of nothingness, though a nothingness nevertheless pregnant with the expectation of fulfillment in the revelation, and finally the actual presence, of evil personified....the dark Lord of this world.

The sentiment of the revolt is Satanic pride:

" which spurns subjection to any master whatever, whether of divine or human origin." (Bakunin, Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age, Fr. Seraphim Rose, p. 63)

The nature of the Satanic revolt is the antithesis of the Christian faith. Whereas Christian faith is joy, patience, love, truth, humbleness, perseverance, submission in all things to the Will of God, and blessed eternal life, the Satanic counterfeit is full of skepticism, lies, sophistry, revulsion, burning envy, impatience, seething hatred, jealousy, rebelliousness, blasphemy, and eternal life in Hell.

Fueled by dissatisfaction with self, the world, society, and God, it devotes its' infernal energy toward "hope and change," or as Marx put it, toward the destruction of everything that exists.

The Satanic revolt intends both the destruction of the Christian-based Old Order and the establishment of something new, because:

"The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed." (Karl Marx, Marx and Satan, p. 59)

In the religious order it intends to fully possess the Christian faith and refashion it completely. The Satanic revolt will not stop until every vestige of faith in God has been obliterated in every heart. Every man, woman, and child will experience a counter-conversion...a Satanic Initiation in the words of New Age insider David Spangler... to a new faith, an anti-gospel preached by anti-saints from the void.

The Satanic revolt seduces in the name of fairness, equality, liberty, free love, and peace. It appeals to pride, licentiousness, and resentment and justifies itself in the name of progress, evolution, and science. But what do these terms really mean? The respected traditionalist metaphysician Rene Guenon (1886-1951) reveals the answer in his brilliant critical analysis of Theosophy and Spiritism entitled, "The Spiritist Fallacy."

Progress and Evolution

Guenon writes that in early Theosophist and spiritist (mediums/channelers) circles use of the word 'progress' or 'progressivist' preceded the use of the word 'evolution.' The roots of Theosophy, hence of evolution, stretch back to the ancient Upanishads of India and to ancient Greece, and in its modern version, progress and/or evolution describes the progress (transmigration) of soul as it inhabits in succession the bodies of different beings over the course of thousands or even millions and billions of years.

Eventually the word evolution became preferred, especially by empirical realists and materialists like Karl Marx because it had a more 'scientific' allure:

"This kind of 'verbalism'...provides the illusion of thought for those incapable of really thinking..." wrote Guenon. (ibid, p. 231)

Unconscious Satanism

Guenon defines progress, progressivism, and evolution as satanic and adherents as unconscious Satanists because for the most part their hubris and ignorance blind them to the extreme dangers of the "infernal fire" they play with:

"..every theory that notably disfigures the Divinity should in some measure be regarded as satanic; and conceptions of a limited God and of a God who evolves should here be placed in the front rank...."

Thus "evolutionism" in general and Modernist "conceptions" in particular are satanic. The 'immanentist' Christ-force of the Liberal Church is satanic because it "openly submits the Divinity to becoming." (ibid, p. 257)

Possessing the Body of the Church for Satan

"The coming struggle will emerge within the churches themselves; it will be precipitated by the enlightened (progressive) elements...the fight will then spread to thinking men and women everywhere who---in a protesting revolt---have denied orthodox churchianity and theology." (Spirit Master Djwhal Khul speaking through Alice Bailey, Externalization of the Hierarchy, pp. 453-454)

By the turn of the century, the beginnings of a counter-initiatic hierarchy of "enlightened progressive " elements had arisen and the "abomination of desolation" crept into the Church.

Pope Pius X noted with alarm that progressive "thinking" was taking hold of the contemporary mind, and in that way taking possession of Western civilization, including Catholic laity and priests. The Pope defined progressivism as "Modernism" and in 1907 declared it a heresy in the encyclical called 'Pascendi Dominici Gregis." ("The Heresy of Modernism...seriously," Churchmouse Campanologist, May 26, 2009)

The Satanic Revolt as Modernist Heresy

"...the inventors of impure heresies (the) profaners and apostates...have opened their mouths wide against the divine glory." ...Church Father Cyril of Alexandria

The Pope noted that Modernist "Christian" heretics were claiming that Christ is in us (pantheist monism) and that through evolution an immanentist Christ-force progressed and/or "emanated from nature spontaneously and of itself." (The Heresy of Modernism...seriously)

Since evolution implies continuous change, becoming, and/or progress, "Christian" heretics claim that immutable (unchanging) truths do not exist, therefore there is nothing immutable in the Bible or the Church....or for that matter in Americas' Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights and Rule of Law. All are subject to change, for in that satanic monism conceptually dissolves the living, transcendent Christ into nature, everything becomes imaginatively infused with impersonal divine spirit, power, intent, determinism (fate), and motion. Thus claim heretics, religion itself lives and evolves, and "must in fact be changed."

"Christian" change-agents further claim that all religions and belief systems are true because the satanic divine-force suffuses and energizes all things. By extension of this perverse reasoning, Gaia is alive, and Gnosticism, Satanism, Wicca, Theosophy, and Sharia are true. This is syncretism (moral relativism), the uniting of good and evil, truth and lie, the holy and the unholy. R.J. Rushdoony writes:

"Now syncretism is destructive of the human mind, of rationality...(A) man who wants to unite good and evil...has lost the capacity for clear thinking. His mind is darkened, clouded, fuzzed over, and incompetent....Man, by presuming to be god, has by that act destroyed the possibility of true thinking; from so radically false a premise, no valid conclusion can follow." ("Why Is Rick Warren Waffling?" Lee Duigon, Chalcedon)

Seventy-one years after the Pope issued his encyclical, eminent Catholic theologian Malachi Martin observed that Modernist heresy has significantly diminished belief among Christian churchman as a whole, including prominently:

"...the Roman Catholic hierarchy and clergy (who have) relegated the very existence of Satan to the same fate as basic Roman Catholic and Christian teaching...It has been said by one mainstream Protestant clergyman in this regard that---disagreement with the Roman Catholic Church notwithstanding---the Catholic Church was always the anchor. With that anchor lost, all flounder." (Hostage to the Devil: The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans, Martin, p. xv)

Satanic Revolt: America's Theological Crisis

Peter Jones, author of "Spirit Wars: Pagan Revival in Christian America" connects progressive Christian Liberalism to ancient devilish Gnosticism, saying they are kindred-spirits. He points to progressive Liberalism as the carrier of the occult spiritual virus (satanic revolt) into the Body of the Church where it acts to divide Christians against each other.

In her Washington Times article, “Beware: Hell Exists, There’s No Christianity without Sin, Death, and the Resurrection,” Janice Crouse addresses America's growing theological crisis, noting that the Evangelical Church has become divided against itself. Citing "Evangelicals Divided," in the April edition of First Things, she writes:

"First Things warns, “If evangelical theology…does not exercise the kind of intellectual humility required by Traditionalism, it will not survive…it will risk disintegrating into ever more subjectivist and individualistic sects, many of them neither evangelical nor orthodox.”

Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary addresses this crisis in his book, “The Disappearance of God.” There is a growing chasm, notes Mohler. On one side are the traditionalists and on the other, the self-autonomous contemporary church, which defines itself over and against Traditionalism, or authentic Christianity.

Authentic Christianity is very narrowly defined. Mohler writes that all Christians across a vast denominational range who hold fast to the fundamental doctrines are Authentic Christians while all who do not are not by definition Christian. Fundamental doctrines are:

" The Trinity (including full deity and humanity of Jesus Christ); the authenticity of Scripture (the Revealed Word of God); the Incarnation (death, burial, resurrection); justification by faith; sin (humanities willful revolt against God the Father); the traditional doctrine of Hell, and the absolute sovereignty of God the Father." (Psalm 1)

The contemporary church is strongly attracted to the modern kind of Christianity proposed by the Emerging Church, whose leaders include Brian McLaren, Rick Warren, and Rob Bell. However, the spirit of Modernist heresy energizes the Emergent Church, and in that the contemporary mind embraces its' pseudo-theology it is therefore uncomfortable with fundamental doctrine, said Mohler.

It prefers “change” "progress" "novelty" “tolerance” inclusion" and “feelings,” especially whatever “feels good.” It rejects discipline and wants humanistic feel-good messages and diversionary entertainment rather than expository sermons and sound teaching. Since its’ deity is a dead-god of “all-inclusive love” it never speaks of wrath and judgment, hence hell, sin, and repentance are not just unwelcome, but are in fact “intolerable” to the self-autonomous contemporary mind, noted Mohler.

The pseudo-theology of the Emergent Church already has much in common with New Age spirituality: http://carm.org/new-age-more/ This means that the Emergent Church is falling into the New Age with the contemporary church stumbling along in its' wake.

Lucifers' Coming New World Order

The Satanic Revolt has finally brought forth a legion of anti-saints, a fully-commissioned "counter-initiatic hierarchy" to usher in a New World Order. Rene Guenon describes the hierarchy as:

"the inverse of the true saints, thus manifesting the most complete expression possible of inverted spirituality." (False Dawn: The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-World Religion, Lee Penn, p. 437)

These forces have invented a pseudo- religion, http://one-faith-of-god.org/default.asp and the Charter for America's Union, http://americas-union.org/ The bigger picture includes six such unions, http://heal-the-earth.org/unions.asp Major planetary forces can be seen here: http://heal-the-earth.org/ngos.asp

Lee Penn calls our attention to the United Religions Initiative. Wittingly or perhaps unwittingly the URI is the leading edge of the One-Faith-Of-God initiative. The URI is to a significant extent animated by New Age satanic-spirituality. Penn notes that evolution is absolutely central to New Age theology which is a syncretistic stew of Liberal Christianity, Theosophy, Spiritism, the Ancient Mysteries, Wicca, Goddess worship, and adulation of Lucifer.

The URI has attracted a disparate group of activists and powerful supporters. For example, the Dalai Lama, progressive churchmen from the People's Republic of China, pro-gay Episcopalians, radical Muslims, feminist witches, rich capitalist foundations, the Club of Rome, the Temple of Understanding and the Lucis Trust, formerly called Lucifer Publishing. Prominent supporters of the URI and globalism include occultist Robert Muller (former UN assistant secretary general), Neale Donald Walsh, George Soros, Mikhail Gorbachev, Maurice Strong, Ted Turner, and Barbara Marx Hubbard. (pp.5,7, 23-26)

New Age spirituality relies heavily on the spirit revelations channeled through Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Muller, Marx Hubbard, and Neale Donald Walsh. Penn notes that all together they form a comprehensive anti-Gospel setting forth a progressive vision of spiritualized totalitarianism that includes:

1. Praise for Lucifer as the light-bearer and giver of wisdom.

2. Proclaiming that we humans are gods and that death is not real

3. Advocacy for extreme population control, including eugenics and euthanasia

4. Utter contempt for traditional religions---with concentrated scorn directed at Judaism, evangelical Protestantism, and Roman Catholicism

5. Forecasting a pending (and for them, desirable) "selection" of mankind, in which the progressives enter the New Age and the reactionaries face extinction. For the New Age Apostles of "progressive" Social Darwinism, these casualties are a necessary price to pay for human evolution." (ibid, p. 7)

Speaking through Hubbard, her spirit guide "Christ" prophesied in 1995 that the Rider of the Pale Horse will use the "sword" as one of his means to "kill those who choose to remain self-centered." (ibid, p. 322)

Revelations from the gods of this world

Speaking through Alice Bailey, Djwhal Khul predicted back in the 1940s that the spiritual hierarchy would:

"bring to an end the long silence which has persisted since Atlantean days," and "renew an ancient sharing of secrets." Thus "in the immediate future," the spirit "Masters will walk openly among men...openly guiding and directing the affairs of humanity." (False Dawn, p. 262)

From the spirit-channeled revelations called Course in Miracles taught by New Age High Priestess Oprah Winfrey to the spirit-revelations of Neale Donald Walsh, spirits going by a variety of names are indeed speaking and "sharing secrets"....in local bookstores and right on TV. And what of Khul's prediction that Masters will openly guide the affairs of humanity? The plan is already in place:

See: Transcended Masters and Elder Spirits will provide spiritual guidance: http://one-faith-of-god.org/officials/officials_master_spirits.asp

"Masters will walk openly among men...."

From the Royal Society (the national academy of science in the UK) and NASA, to the European Space Agency, the UN office for Outer Space Affairs, and to the Vatican's progressive astronomers, excited discussions abound, all centered upon the existence of highly evolved Space Brothers (aliens) and their anticipated arrival here on earth. Lord Martin Rees, President of the Royal Society announced that aliens may be "staring us in the face" in a form unrecognizable to humans. (Official Disclosure: Prepare for Contact, Donna Anderson, http://www.officialdisclosure.com/)

Longtime ET-believing UFO researchers however, are no longer excited but alarmed. Their research shows that modern alien abductions resemble ancient stories of demons. The similarity was not lost on UFO research-scientist John Keel:

"Demonology is not just another crackpot-ology. It is the ancient and scholarly study of the monsters and demons who have...coexisted with man throughout history....The manifestations and occurrences described in this imposing literature are similar, if not..identical, to the UFO phenomenon. Victims of demonomania (possession) suffer the very same medical and emotional symptoms as the UFO contactees..." (Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection, Gary Bates, p. 260)

The Ruler of this World and His Inverted Spirituality

Where there is no God there is no truth, and the rebellious will reigns instead. But "the will" said Dostoevsky with his acute insight into the revolutionary mentality, "is the closest to nothing; the most assertive are closest to the most nihilistic."

Having murdered somewhere between 100,000,000-250,000,000 men, women and children, the satanic Communist and National Socialist regimes of the 20th century provided a foretaste of the planetary horrors waiting to be unleashed during the coming New Age, while the widespread rebelliousness, disorder, near universal corruption, and nihilistic barbarianism of the present day are further portents.

Though its' terrible work is far from finished, the Satanic revolt to "destroy everything that exists" has at long last given birth to a post-Christian West and to the most complete expression of inverted spirituality, the Supreme Bible of God: http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/bible_of_god.htm

Chapter 1, the Almanac of Evil is a lengthy criminal indictment levied against the Roman Catholic Church, Popes, St. Irenaeus, and St. Paul, St. Luke, and the other Apostles. The crime of the Apostles? Setting up a criminal enterprise called Christianity: http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0010.htm

All people will worship the one-god. But who or what is it?

Speaking through Bailey Djwhal Khul identified "the Ancient of Days" and the "Lord of the World, the One Initiator" as a spirit named Sanat Kumara. Kumara is one of "the mind-born Sons" of Siva. Venus, the planet from which Kumara came "...is Lucifer, the morning star."

Blavatsky noted that Christians call Kumara a fallen angel. Therefore Christians may correctly conclude that the New Age lord is the Devil, the hostile power that Christ called "the ruler of this world." (John 14:30) It is in Chapter 4, the Encyclical of God that Satan:

" himself is raised up to the power of a Great Spirit of One Heaven and a protector of the final covenant." http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/encyclical/encyclical_0040.htm

Behind the progressive One-God is Satan. He is Yaldabaoth, mother and father, genetic creator of man, first free thinker, Cybele, Moloch, the dread lord lifted up as the One-God. The Devil is the one by which :

"Socialists recognize each other by the words, "In the name of the one to whom a great wrong has been done....Satan (is) the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds."

All who hope to enter the New Age will have to receive his mark and be infernally sealed for all eternity.

Something Evil This Way Comes

"...the very idea of tradition has been destroyed to such an extent that those who seek to recover it no longer know which way to turn, and are only too ready to accept all the false ideas presented to them in its place and under its name." (Rene Guenon, False Dawn, p. 436)

Something is happening and about to happen:

"People no longer know what they have lost, much less that they themselves are lost....The landscape is changing, the skies are darkening---and this is something we know with a... spiritual sense, a spiritual urgency." (Albert Mohler, The Disappearance of God, p. 158)

A vast dark wing covers the West. Within its' shadow America implodes as the Church fractures and splinters apart. A vigorous shaking and threshing is going on. Something is happening that "we as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ should see and understand," warns Mohler. "For we cannot say that we were not warned." (Joel 2:30-32)

copyright 2011 Linda Kimball

Related Essays:

Darwinism: Devilish Gnostic Myth Dressed Up As Science

Rise of the Modern Moloch State: Global Spiritual Communism

The Original Lie: Basis of America's Ruling Class Barbarians

Occult Pagan Revival Signals Death of America and the West

Linda writes on worldview and related issues.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: communism; corruption; demons; evolution; marx; newage; occult; pagan; powersprincipalities; progressivism; satan; satanism; socialism; theology; ufo

1 posted on 05/04/2011 4:14:35 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee

ping


2 posted on 05/04/2011 4:15:30 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

ping


3 posted on 05/04/2011 4:16:37 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
Longtime ET-believing UFO researchers however, are no longer excited but alarmed. Their research shows that modern alien abductions resemble ancient stories of demons. The similarity was not lost on UFO research-scientist John Keel: "Demonology is not just another crackpot-ology. It is the ancient and scholarly study of the monsters and demons who have...coexisted with man throughout history....The manifestations and occurrences described in this imposing literature are similar, if not..identical, to the UFO phenomenon. Victims of demonomania (possession) suffer the very same medical and emotional symptoms as the UFO contactees..." (Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection, Gary Bates, p. 260)

A decent recent movie shows this similiarity, albeit not intentionally is The 4th Kind

4 posted on 05/04/2011 4:26:23 AM PDT by eak3
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To: spirited irish

I belong to the one true CHRIST. JESUS is my LORD and SAVIOR and I offer myself to him as his sword. I will stand with him and fight this evil... if only he will have me. HIS WILL BE DONE!

LLS


5 posted on 05/04/2011 4:43:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: spirited irish; Quix; Joya; Uri’el-2012

ping to you guys.


6 posted on 05/04/2011 5:18:19 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: spirited irish
“” which spurns subjection to any master whatever, whether of divine or human origin.” (Bakunin, Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age, Fr. Seraphim Rose, p. 63)”

Here in lies the madness.....Satan will require their subjection eventually.

He will demand worship, for he shall be as God.

Rebellion, then subjection, what a bitter, eternal pill.

All agreements with Hell and Death shall not stand.....Christ is triumphant already with their keys in his hand.

7 posted on 05/04/2011 5:19:32 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: RoadGumby

self ping


8 posted on 05/04/2011 5:39:09 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: spirited irish

When the fairies are displeased with anybody, they are said to send their elves to pinch them. The ecclesiastics, when they are displeased with any civil state, make also their elves, that is, superstitious, enchanted subjects, to pinch their princes, by preaching sedition; or one prince, enchanted with promises, to pinch another.

Whatsoever is the object of any man’s appetite or desire, that is it which he for his part calls good; and the object of his hate and aversion, evil; and of his contempt, vile and inconsiderable. For these words of good, evil, and contemptible are ever used with relation to the person that uses them: there being nothing simply and absolutely so; nor any common rule of good and evil to be taken from the nature of the objects themselves; but from the person of the man.


9 posted on 05/04/2011 5:54:22 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Are these your musings?

Or, are you giving credit to someone?


10 posted on 05/04/2011 6:02:24 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

And your point is......?


11 posted on 05/04/2011 7:18:16 AM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: eak3

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


12 posted on 05/04/2011 8:10:46 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

GREAT TO SEE SOMEONE WRITE IT LIKE IT IS.

SATANISM—GLOBALISM’S ROOT AND HIERARCHY.

As the quotes note below . . . globalism is lucerferian at its roots.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475963/posts?page=60#60
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colorful NWO QUIXICATION of quotes:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2624713/posts?page=153#153


13 posted on 05/04/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: spirited irish; Quix; Joya
Clear-eyed and prescient !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

14 posted on 05/04/2011 8:16:20 AM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

I wonder . . .

is that why some in the FR hierarchy as well as many in the rank and file, have yet to come to terms

with such facts . . . that globalism is as deeply entrenched, long standing and already globally extremely powerful and !!!CONTROLLING!!!!

—because they have never come to terms with the realities of satanism?

GREAT TO SEE SOMEONE WRITE IT LIKE IT IS.

SATANISM—GLOBALISM’S ROOT AND HIERARCHY.


15 posted on 05/04/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

snip: because they have never come to terms with the realities of satanism?

Spirited: I think you have hit the nail squarely on the head. How can a people who no longer believe in the existence of their own spirit/soul accept belief in the existence of a spiritual dimension? By extension, how can a people who believe that evil exists within “social constructs” rather than within themselves believe in the existence of “fallen” spirits?


16 posted on 05/04/2011 9:09:12 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

INDEED.

I’ve been convinced for about 30 years that the “ET” stuff would end up being part of the Biblically warned about

GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES.

I’m MORE thoroughly convinced of that now, than ever.

Whether the critters play the role of attackers only

or

saviors of us from ourselves

or one crew of them playing the role of attackers and

different ‘race’ of them playing the role of the good cop—it’s all a sham DECEPTION to enslave to satan further—as many mortals as possible.

To steal as many mortals, God’s favorite Creation—as possible from a Heavenly destiny.

And many mortals are blithely and willfully blindly playing along hook line and sinker.


17 posted on 05/04/2011 9:54:14 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: spirited irish

Thank you so much for this insightful essay!


18 posted on 05/04/2011 9:56:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

Raiders News Network keeps up with the Space Brothers/fallen angels scenario and much more: http://www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/ You’ll also find that they’ve published Kimballs essay as “Linda Kimball: Fallen Aliens/Angels Already Here...and Going to Church.”

The title says it all!


19 posted on 05/04/2011 12:05:25 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

thx thx.

will check it out.


20 posted on 05/04/2011 12:07:47 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Puckster
Hobbes is nice, but I prefer Calvin and Hobbes.

However, I can't think of an appropriate strip to post, so let me segue over onto Shakespeare:

Send me a cool rut-time, Jove, or who can blame me to piss my tallow? Who comes here? my doe?

(Fairies appear shortly thereafter to pinch him...)

...speaking of that, Puck, shouldn't you be over in A Midsummer Night's Dream?

Cheers!

21 posted on 05/04/2011 4:18:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; spirited irish; Quix
Time to quote C.S. Lewis again.

From That Hideous Strength:

The physical sciences, good and innocent in themselves, had already, even in Ransom's own time, begun to be warped, had been subtly manoeuvered in a certain direction. Despair of objective truth had been increasingly insinuated into the scientists; indifference to it, and a concentration upon mere power, had been the result. Babble about the élan vital and flirtations with panpsychism were bidding fair to restore the Anima Mundi of the magicians. Dreams of the far future destiny of man were dragging up from its shallow and unquiet grave the old dream of Man as God. The very experiences of the dissecting room and the pathological laboratory were breeding a conviction that the stifling of all deep-set repugnances was the first essential for progress. And now, all this had reached the stage at which its dark contrivers thought they could safely begin to bend it back so that it would meet that other and earlier kind of power. You could not have done it with Nineteenth-Century scientists. Their firm objective materialism would have excluded it from their minds; and even if they could have been made to believe, their inherited morality would have kept them from touching dirt. MacPhee was a survivor from that tradition. It was different now. Perhaps few or none of the people at Belbury knew what was happening; but once it happened, they would be like straw in fire. What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men? The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate. Bad men, while still in the body, still crawling on this little globe, would enter that state which, heretofore, they had entered only after death, would have the diuturnity and power of evil spirits. Nature, over all the globe of Tellus, would become their slave; and of that dominion no end, before the end of time itself, could be certainly foreseen.

(Full disclosure: no paragraphs in original source, either. Don't blame me.)

Cheers!

22 posted on 05/04/2011 4:44:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Caddyman

Ping.


23 posted on 05/04/2011 7:23:26 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Adonai)
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To: grey_whiskers

Lewis at his well done again.

I know . . . a literary style of paragraphing. Sheesh . . .


Time to quote C.S. Lewis again.

From That Hideous Strength:

The physical sciences, good and innocent in themselves, had already, even in Ransom’s own time, begun to be warped, had been subtly manoeuvered in a certain direction. Despair of objective truth had been increasingly insinuated into the scientists; indifference to it, and a concentration upon mere power, had been the result.

Babble about the élan vital and flirtations with panpsychism were bidding fair to restore the Anima Mundi of the magicians. Dreams of the far future destiny of man were dragging up from its shallow and unquiet grave the old dream of Man as God. The very experiences of the dissecting room and the pathological laboratory were breeding a conviction that the stifling of all deep-set repugnances was the first essential for progress.

And now, all this had reached the stage at which its dark contrivers thought they could safely begin to bend it back so that it would meet that other and earlier kind of power. You could not have done it with Nineteenth-Century scientists. Their firm objective materialism would have excluded it from their minds; and even if they could have been made to believe, their inherited morality would have kept them from touching dirt.

MacPhee was a survivor from that tradition. It was different now. Perhaps few or none of the people at Belbury knew what was happening; but once it happened, they would be like straw in fire. What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men?

The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate.

Bad men, while still in the body, still crawling on this little globe, would enter that state which, heretofore, they had entered only after death, would have the diuturnity and power of evil spirits. Nature, over all the globe of Tellus, would become their slave; and of that dominion no end, before the end of time itself, could be certainly foreseen.


24 posted on 05/04/2011 8:05:59 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: grey_whiskers; Alamo-Girl; xzins; spirited irish; Quix; LeGrande; James C. Bennett
What should they find incredible, since they believed no longer in a rational universe? What should they regard as too obscene, since they held that all morality was a mere subjective by-product of the physical and economic situations of men? The time was ripe. From the point of view which is accepted in Hell, the whole history of our Earth had led up to this moment. There was now at last a real chance for Fallen Man to shake off that limitation of his powers which mercy had imposed upon him as a protection from the full results of his fall. If this succeeded, Hell would be at last incarnate.

May God ever bless C. S. Lewis, so beloved to me as the exemplification of Christian Realism, as evident in his writings, in his quiet yet profoundly efficacious evangelism....

Thank you so very much, grey_whiskers, for letting Lewis speak to us again, through your post.

To me, the man is blessed, now and always.

25 posted on 05/04/2011 9:08:14 PM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop; grey_whiskers
Indeed, C.S. Lewis is blessed and a blessing to us.

Thank you so much, dear grey_whiskers, for bringing the excerpt to this thread!

26 posted on 05/04/2011 9:26:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I agree with both of you.

However, there’s a stray puzzle piece in my mental archives . . .

someone’s trip to Heaven included a dialogue with a famous Christian writer—I took it to mean C.S. Lewis though the Heaven visitor refused to say who it was. It seemed to me that their description MOST PROBABLY only fit Lewis. It is conceivable it was someone else, however.

Anyway—whoever it was—considered all their writings as dross, chaff, grossly inadequate for the cause of the Gospel. And, they were reportedly in the lower ranks of Heaven for whatever reason(s).

I remember reading that and being rather stunned at the time. An interesting mystery anyway.


27 posted on 05/04/2011 9:47:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; betty boop
I cannot think of any Christian writer who would consider his work as adequate for the cause of the Gospels.

The words of God are spirit and life. The words of men are neither spirit nor life.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. - Hebrews 4:12

Nor can I imagine a Christian being concerned about rank, i.e. any personal recognition or credit.

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God. - Mark 10:18

God's Name is I AM.

28 posted on 05/04/2011 10:15:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

AGREED.

And both points seemed to be the current heaven bound attitude of the graduated Christian writer.


29 posted on 05/04/2011 10:19:02 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Praise God!!!
30 posted on 05/04/2011 10:20:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: grey_whiskers

Well.....some catch me in a Midsummers Day Dream....in which case....Puck isn’t the word they Expletive-deletive at me??????


31 posted on 05/05/2011 12:55:13 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: spirited irish

BTTT and placemark for pingout!


32 posted on 05/05/2011 10:31:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

ping!


33 posted on 05/06/2011 3:07:15 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
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I like to ping Linda Kimball's articles after I've read them carefully so I can add my teensy little .02 tp the discussion - haven't had time to read this sufficiently but am pinging it out as it needs to get Out There to the list! I hope to get back in a bit after taking the time needed to digest it. One very small .01 - not even the old copper kind - I've seen on a church sign board "There's a God Shaped Hole in Everyones' Heart" and that is a fact. If we do not worship Him, we will worship something else, and that always leads to disaster.

34 posted on 05/06/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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36 posted on 05/06/2011 9:48:59 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: kimmie7; spirited irish

Did you mean to write a comment or were just placemarking?

I’ve had a couple of really busy/awful days and will read Linda Kimball’s article carefully tomorrow. Her articles are like huge dinners with many dishes and need a bit of time and reflection to take in.


37 posted on 05/06/2011 9:53:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: spirited irish
or as Marx put it, toward the destruction of everything that exists.

I have thought that Satan's real goal is not to be king of all things and to allow for rebellion throughout all of eternity but rather his goal is to simply vanish into absolutely nothingness. The Bible says that God's name is I AM. The opposite of being is not being, not existing. It is possible that Satan knows that he cannot overcome God and rule but rather than spend eternity in the lake of fire suffering horribly forever and ever he much rather the alternative which is to simply vanish. He may figure that if he can cause The LORD to fail in any way that all of existence would come apart and simply cease to exist. I have thought this because I have wondered, when Satan must know he is defeated, why he keeps trying and what possibly he would hope to accomplish. It is possibly that if The LORD failed in any way, which we know is impossible and will not happen, that all would cease to exist is his true hope and plan.

38 posted on 05/07/2011 1:16:56 AM PDT by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: spirited irish
Chapter 1, the Almanac of Evil is a lengthy criminal indictment levied against the Roman Catholic Church, Popes, St. Irenaeus, and St. Paul, St. Luke, and the other Apostles. The crime of the Apostles? Setting up a criminal enterprise called Christianity: http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0010.htm"

I seems that the professional anti-Catholics who make their living publishing and otherwise distributing lies about His Church think that as Christians siding with Satan on some issues is an acceptable expedient. Either that or they're only claiming to be Christian in order to reach audiences who would otherwise ignore them.

It's a real shame how easily Satan gathers allies who, while they claim to be following Christ, readily soak up Satan's lies. Satan will almost always nudge that sort of folks into accepting the same lie he told Eve, that their eyes have been opened and their own understanding is sufficient.

"Peter Jones, author of "Spirit Wars: Pagan Revival in Christian America" connects progressive Christian Liberalism to ancient devilish Gnosticism, saying they are kindred-spirits. He points to progressive Liberalism as the carrier of the occult spiritual virus (satanic revolt) into the Body of the Church where it acts to divide Christians against each other."

When the only real limit on the interpretation of Scripture is, "to thine own self be true", Gnosticism is bound to creep in as a way for the individual to explain away the vast number of different interpretations that don't agree with their own. Claiming to have special knowledge makes it easy to ignore everything that might limit their behavior or in some way make them feel uncomfortable. From there, it's only a small step to accepting occult beliefs as equal to Christian beliefs.

39 posted on 05/07/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: little jeremiah

Just planting a bookmark. ;-)


40 posted on 05/07/2011 4:33:33 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Quix

First time I read T.H.S I must say that I enjoyed Out of the Silent Planet and Perelandra more, 15 years later it was reversed. That Hideous Strenght was written in ‘45. The whole insidious build-up with the satanic institute slowly gaining power over the surrounding country-side could have been written 24 hours ago, I was amazed at how prescient it is.

Freegards


41 posted on 05/07/2011 6:31:48 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: spirited irish

Bm


42 posted on 05/07/2011 6:52:05 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Ransomed

Interesting. I think THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH was the first book that caused me to think in overdrive.

Heavy issues well presented therein.


43 posted on 05/07/2011 7:07:22 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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