Governor's statement on Health Dept. release (Hawaii)

staradvertiser.com ^ | April 27, 2011 | By Office of the Governor

[ilovesarah2012]

A copy of a statement from Gov. Neil Abercrombie's office regarding the release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate:

The Hawai'i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a "long form" birth certificate.

"We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai'i," Hawai'i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. "I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai'i."

On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President's personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President.

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama's request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

[Raycpa]

Two questions:

1. Didn’t everyone in the press say Obama already issued his BC and laughed at those who disagreed?

2. Isn’t it impossible for Hawaii to issue a copy of the BC?

Just wondering why we were lied to.

[frogjerk]

So the Governor couldn't find this but now it shows up like BAM! What the Hell is going on?

[neodad]

So this is the same thing we’ve seen before?

[Paisan]

which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.

because the media are idiots...

[Vendome]

This whole BC thing is a put up.  A Fairy Tail!

 

It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

 

But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and has at least two in his possessoin:

 

The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's requrest.

 

"If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.

 

He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.

 

I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???

 

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

 

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

 

That is what we are after at a minimum.

 

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.

 

That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.

 

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and seperate things that conflict with each other's existence.

 

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

[Talisker]

The Hawai'i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a "long form" birth certificate.

But which, you'll note, the Hawai'i State Health Department ITSELF is NOT calling a "long form" birth certificate.

[Two Kids' Dad]

There is one Republican in the Hawaii state legislature that has questioned the birth certificate issue. I don’t remember his name. If he’s allowed to go into the records office and actually view the microfilm/microfiche and ALL the information is there and matches perfectly with what 0bama has released, then I’ll consider believing them.

[frogjerk]

There are so many lies that were told to us over the previous months leading up to today. Why? Why all of the obfuscation, misdirections, out-and-out lies, etc...

This only shows that Obama has so much cover from his lackeys and why should anyone believe a word this guy or his minions say?

[DouglasKC]

If the document that was "released" years ago was a real COLB then why was a similar statement never made about it? Why didn't Hawaii make a clear statement saying they had issued that too?

This is way too weird.

[Raycpa]

Add this to your list of curiosities:

The suffix II is used when the child has an identical name to a relative, but who is not the child’s father. The relative may be an uncle, cousin or grandfather.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_%28name%29

[VAFreedom]

1. that was the short form when they release it a while back, if i remember correctly, it does not have the doctor’s name on it.

2. the article mentioned a waiver in order to get them to issue a copy.

fwiw....

[Vendome]

I guess it will end or emoliate some people and that is the best we can get from you, governer.

However, we want to see the three originals MuBarak has in his possession.

Those are black and white and of the type and form the rest of us would recognize.

There is no reason to discuss the forms that have been issued since 2001.

MuBarak and any other person born in Hawaii can ask for a copy of their original Birth Certificate, which will require a wait time of about six weeks.

He requested a certificate that anyone can get without waiting six weeks to obtain.

It a walk up document.

Not a copy of the original. Might have a stamp of certification but, It is not a copy of the original.

[Raycpa]

2. the article mentioned a waiver in order to get them to issue a copy.

I understand but the original statement made it seem that even Obama himself could not access a copy and that misunderstanding was an intentional misdirection.

[blondee123]

It still begs the question, what was he hiding & why was he hiding it?

[Vendome]

Yep.

[buffyt]

How can it be file #151 in 1961 in Hawaii. Only the 151st birth in the state of Hawaii as of 1961? Seems very odd. I have my uncle’s birth certificate from 1917 Missouri and it is #32,779 which makes sense. 32,779 birth certificates in Kansas as of July 22, 1917. But Obama is only the 151st birth in the state of Hawaii in 1961. Very doubtful that he was only the 151st person to be born in Hawaii....

[RC one]

American as Apple Pie

[Mr.Unique]

The suffix II is used when the child has an identical name to a relative, but who is not the child’s father.

A am named after my father. I am a II.

A Wikipedia link, really?

[Ben Reyes]

Meet the new COLB. Same as the old COLB.