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Libya rebels will receive $25 million from U.S.
The Washington Times ^ | 4-20-2011 | Eli Lake

Posted on 04/20/2011 11:30:11 AM PDT by Species8472

Dismissing concerns over possible links between Libyan rebels and al Qaeda, the Obama administration has notified Congress it is providing $25 million in nonlethal aid to the rebels’ effort to drive Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s regime from power.

“The president’s proposed actions would provide urgently needed nonlethal assistance to support efforts to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas under threat of attack in Libya,” said Joseph E. Macmanus, acting assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs, in an April 15 letter. A copy of the letter, sent to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was obtained by The Washington Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 25million; alqaeda; libia; libya; macmanus; mccain; missioncreep; money; noflyzone; obama; obamaswar; palin; palindoctrine; palinsfolly; rebels; warpowers; wot
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1 posted on 04/20/2011 11:30:15 AM PDT by Species8472
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To: Species8472

He is nothing if not stupid. It stands to reason that whatever aid you give them frees up other resources to buy weapons and ammo. This is basic logic.


2 posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:09 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Species8472

Time to layoff 25 million worth of policemen and teachers.


3 posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:17 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Species8472

If we have to borrow the money from China to give to them, let China give it to them.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:46 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Species8472

Does anyone think this “nonlethal aid” will not be used for lethal purposes?

What a waste of tax money.


5 posted on 04/20/2011 11:34:04 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Species8472

Nice. But we’re broke.

As John Adams said, we hope for liberty for all peoples, but we are custodians only of our own.

Maybe when Iraq repays us for ousting Sadaam, we can
afford to help out another rebel movement.


6 posted on 04/20/2011 11:34:09 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Species8472

I heard today that some are calling for Kadafffi to be charged with war crimes.

how can people be accused of “war crimes” when there’s no “war” going on?


7 posted on 04/20/2011 11:37:00 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Reagan Man
Does anyone think this “nonlethal aid” will not be used for lethal purposes?

This just frees up $25 million of Al QuaedaLibya's money to buy weapons with.
8 posted on 04/20/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha (Paul/Ventura 2012 - 'Cause Maybe Batsh#t Crazy IS the Answer)
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To: Species8472
China receives oil from them let them pay for it! I freakin’ hate obama.
9 posted on 04/20/2011 11:39:50 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Reagan Man
Does anyone think this “nonlethal aid” will not be used for lethal purposes?

Yup. It will. See your FReepmail in a few.

10 posted on 04/20/2011 11:40:07 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: Species8472; All

Apparently the CIA was in Libya and signed off on this. In a related development, the head of Yeman complained that women participating in demonstrations was unIslamic. The next demonstration there were large quantities of women taking part. Perhaps women (empowered by Facebook, Twitter, etc.) will keep the men from highjacking these movements for fundamentalism.


11 posted on 04/20/2011 11:40:07 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Species8472

The commies always claimed that we’d sell them they rope they’d use to hang us. Now were giving it away!


12 posted on 04/20/2011 11:41:33 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: Species8472

the undocumented pRes_ _ent Obama:
"They will invest in nukes and shoulder missiles against American civilians."

13 posted on 04/20/2011 11:50:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Species8472

They gave an extra $100+ million to Egypt and its going Sharia...

do you think their massive foreign aid will be stopped??


14 posted on 04/20/2011 11:53:51 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“I heard today that some are calling for Kadafffi to be charged with war crimes.”

The same people who put him at the head of the UN “Human Rights” commission. The worldwide political class is a joke. I just want to be left alone.


15 posted on 04/20/2011 11:57:05 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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16 posted on 04/20/2011 11:57:45 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I heard today that some are calling for Kadafffi to be charged with war crimes. how can people be accused of “war crimes” when there’s no “war” going on?

You must be one of those 'troublemakers' that they warned us about...

:-)

17 posted on 04/20/2011 11:58:28 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Species8472

The MB must be short on cash.


18 posted on 04/20/2011 11:59:03 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Species8472

This is wonderful! First we spend billions trying to kill al Qaeda, now we’re giving them $25 million in personal payoffs.

Shaazam! Al Qaeda is our friends! It’s magical that way.


19 posted on 04/20/2011 11:59:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Species8472
What does it mean that Obama notified Congress, does congress have to vote on this? .........hello.
20 posted on 04/20/2011 12:00:33 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (ATLAS WILL SHRUG)
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To: liberalh8ter

They are not short on cash. But, why spend yours when you have a uncle in the White House and a niece that is Secretary of State?


21 posted on 04/20/2011 12:02:05 PM PDT by sport
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To: wiggen

If by “he” you mean obama, he is evil but, he is far from stupid. He hates America and all it stands for. He was put in office to do one thing, destroy the United States.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 12:04:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: Species8472

Here’s an idea for obama - you can raise the 25 mil by selling arms to Iran. Whatever is left over maybe you can free some terrorists somewhere. It’s like I am in an alternate reality under an anti-Reagan.


23 posted on 04/20/2011 12:05:49 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Species8472

Can you imagine Obama’s response if this was 1941 and the Japanese just bombed Pearl Harbor.
“Uhhhhh....we are officially going to send 25 million in “non-lethal” aid to the Philippines and uhhhhhh we will be initiating a uhhhhh military kenetic action in the south pacific, but only after we put it to a vote at the League of Nations first.”


24 posted on 04/20/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Species8472

Where on earth did Obama come up with this money?

Where is congress? We are creating another fiscal sink hole.


25 posted on 04/20/2011 12:18:12 PM PDT by unique
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To: Species8472

My new proposal:

F**k ‘em all. All of them. Drill for our own damn oil (or get it from Canada, etc), and tell them to go screw a camel somewhere.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 12:18:12 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: Species8472
Treason, and Broke!

Barry is a Clear & Present Danger to America!

27 posted on 04/20/2011 12:18:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Species8472

When things like this go on, the entitlement crowd can rightly say “Hey, you’re blowing 25 mil over this so don’t tell me I can’t have mine”.

Regardless of whether they deserve taxpayer money or not, at least they’re Americans. This, like giving money to the Pali’s, is just madness.

Where’s the GOP outrage?


28 posted on 04/20/2011 12:48:28 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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Why is the CIA involved in this? I am tired of the world being turned upside down.


29 posted on 04/20/2011 12:56:14 PM PDT by firebrand (Impeach Obama.)
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To: Species8472
"Libya rebels >jihadis< will receive $25 million from U.S."


30 posted on 04/20/2011 12:58:36 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: All

As the re-election campaign managers study today’s surge in oil price to $111/barrel, and draw conclusions from it, you can rest assured that alleged civilian deaths in Libya will suddenly reach a point beyond Obama’s tolerance and direct military intervention will be ordered.


31 posted on 04/20/2011 1:02:18 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Species8472
Moth balled war equipment from the 80’s, saw two armed personal carriers and two large helicopter head toward. Shipping ports on I81 yesterday, bet there was many, many more. Where in the no fly zone is invasion and war material covered.
32 posted on 04/20/2011 1:03:16 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: sport

Yea well we shall agree to disagree.


33 posted on 04/20/2011 1:06:07 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Species8472
Why waste the effort to send these funds over there?

We could save money if we just brought the "rebels" to this country and gave them some nice shoulder-launched missles.

34 posted on 04/20/2011 1:09:31 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Planning their Easter travels with their friend mr reed.
35 posted on 04/20/2011 1:13:26 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Species8472

Pretty stupid.

Wrecking the Future.


36 posted on 04/20/2011 1:13:38 PM PDT by quesney
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To: Species8472

That could have feed 9,000 children for one full year!

The Democrats just killed 9,000 US Children.


37 posted on 04/20/2011 1:14:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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To: unique
Where on earth did Obama come up with this money?

It's from the Social Security checks you are never going to see. Now all of you racist Freepers, pay your 7.5% and shutup. :-(

38 posted on 04/20/2011 1:17:44 PM PDT by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: Species8472

To Hell with that BS, uhbummer should pay that from his personal account, get out of my pocket you crack head POTUS..


39 posted on 04/20/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by aces
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To: TexasCajun

Yes he is, and unfortunately while not anywahere near rising to the Total muszy renegade duhbummer is the friggin pubs are not even fighting. The dems choose a playing field and they try to play by their rules, this ship is sinkin fast and we need folks who throw out the old game, stop thinking the American people can bail us out of this crap they are shoving down our throats and make the federal gangsta pay, cut it to nothing, remove all its rights to raise or borrow money and run the country from the states, make it so states must balance their budgets and can not loan other states money, eliminate all income and corporate taxes and have a fair tax on goods bought. Then we start playing on our field again, not the minefield they have rigged already to play on..We need our freedom back now...


40 posted on 04/20/2011 1:45:32 PM PDT by aces
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To: Species8472

since when does the President write checks?


41 posted on 04/20/2011 1:46:43 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Species8472

Our treacherous government is financing militant muslims in Libya (and probably Egypt too) while our troops are fighting them and being killed by them in Afghanistan.

The weapons purchased with US money will be used to kill Jews and Christians.


42 posted on 04/20/2011 2:14:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: NoLibZone
The Democrats just killed 9,000 US Children.

Needs embellishment if you're going to match the Dems usual rhetoric. How 'bout 9,000 Downs syndrome Children... and their pet bunny rabbits?

43 posted on 04/20/2011 2:47:05 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: politicianslie

From the web.....

Social Security’s Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program limits the amount of earnings subject to taxation for a given year. The same annual limit also applies when those earnings are used in a benefit computation. This limit generally increases with increases in the national average wage index. We call this annual limit the contribution and benefit base, or taxable maximum. For earnings in 2011, this base is $106,800.

For Medicare’s Hospital Insurance (HI) program, the taxable maximum was the same as that for the OASDI program for 1966-1990. Separate HI taxable maximums of $125,000, $130,200, and $135,000 were applicable in 1991-93, respectively. After 1993, there has been no limitation on HI-taxable earnings.

An employee who pays contributions on earnings in excess of the contribution and benefit base (because of employment with two or more employers) is eligible for a refund of the excess employee contributions.

For wages paid in 2011, employees pay 4.2 percent and employers pay 6.2 percent in OASDI taxes. Thus, an individual with wages equal to or larger than $106,800 would contribute $4,485.60 to the OASDI program in 2011, and his or her employer would contribute $6,621.60. Self-employed workers pay 10.4 percent in OASDI taxes on income in 2011. By law, the OASI and DI trust funds will receive taxes as if the tax rates were 6.2 percent for employees and employers, each, and 12.4 percent for self-employed workers. The reduction in 2011 tax revenue due to lower tax rates will be made up by transfers from the general fund of the Treasury to the trust funds. See tax rates for a table of the OASDI and HI tax rates on wages and self-employment income.


44 posted on 04/20/2011 2:53:00 PM PDT by unique
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To: politicianslie

I forgot....

2011 FICA Tax and Social Security Limits

* FICA Tax Rate = 7.65% (see note below)
* Social Security Limit = $106,800
* Maximum Social Security Contribution = $6,621.60 (employer) / $4485.60 (employee)


45 posted on 04/20/2011 2:55:35 PM PDT by unique
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To: Species8472

Pay your taxes: al Queda needs the money.


46 posted on 04/20/2011 3:04:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Species8472

25Mil is less than the school budget in small towns in New Jersey.

What exactly can 25Mil buy except a few days of face time?

This is about as idiotic as President Eisenhower refusing to meet Fidel Castro in Washington DC in 1959 due to Dwight’s ego.

“Here Libyan rebel leaders, eat some dogfood, on the house.”


47 posted on 04/20/2011 3:16:20 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Species8472
We shouldn't be sending 25 cents to any other country given the mess we're in.

I am for bringing all our troops back to the USA and clamping our borders shut - north and south.

48 posted on 04/20/2011 3:50:42 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: RC2

“If we have to borrow the money from China to give to them, let China give it to them.”

You speak for every American.....except for those at DU.


49 posted on 04/20/2011 4:22:07 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: ppaul
>>>>>>>>"Libya rebels >jihadis< will receive $25 million from U.S."<<<<<<

AQ already got over $1B worth of close air suppoert. $25M is pocket money to be split between Jihhadi leaders, CIA on the ground and State Department.

Precedents: Richard Perle and Douglas Feith financially linked to AQ during Bosnia civil war, Albright (Kosovo)

50 posted on 04/20/2011 4:31:37 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. CENTCOM vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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