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UNCONSTIUTITONAL MICHIGAN BOARDS OF COMMISSIONERS FORM OF GOVERNMENT
Confederate ^ | 04/072011 | Confederate

Posted on 04/07/2011 1:20:49 PM PDT by paratrooper82

Michigan’s County Board of Commissioners form of county government, continue to violate the Constitution of the Michigan, 1963, Article VII, Sections 7, 8, 9, and; have usurped the power established in each [organized county] consisting of [one member] from each [organized township] by constitutional mandate of the people and such representation from cities as provided by law; usurped the legislative, administrative and such other powers and duties as provided by law; usurped the exclusive power to fix the compensation of county officers not otherwise provided by law:

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Michigan’s County Board of Commissioners form of county government, continue to violate the Constitution of the Michigan, 1963, Article VII, Sections 7, 8, 9, and; have usurped the power established in each [organized county] consisting of [one member] from each [organized township] by constitutional mandate of the people and such representation from cities as provided by law; usurped the legislative, administrative and such other powers and duties as provided by law; usurped the exclusive power to fix the compensation of county officers not otherwise provided by law:

1. The people of the State of Michigan established under the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article VII, § 7, “Boards of supervisors to operate and control their County Government, being County; “Board of supervisors shall be established in each organized county consisting of one member from each organized township and such representation from cities as provided by law.” (Emphasis added). Const. 1963, Art. VII, §7, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964. 2. The people of the State of Michigan established under the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article VII, § 8, “Boards of supervisors shall have legislative, administrative and such other powers and duties as provided by law.” (Emphasis added). Const. 1963, Art. VII, §8, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964. 3. The people of the State of Michigan established under the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article VII, § 9, “boards of supervisors shall have exclusive power to fix the compensation of county officers not otherwise provided by law. (Emphasis added). Const. 1963, Art. VII, §9, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964. 4. In re Apportionment of Ontonagon County Board of Supervisors, 380 Mich 736; 158 NW2d 497 (1968); 11 Mich. App. 348, 157 N.W. 2d 698 (1967), The Michigan Court of Appeals dealt for the first time, in a civil case filed by progressive in search of new government, dealt with the issue of the “apportionment plan,” set forth by the Ontonagon Board of Supervisors, finding that one Township within Ontonagon County would not be properly represented by the Board, and therefore the “apportionment plan” was found to be unconstitutional. The State legislator, through the judicial branch of the Michigan Government, i.e. appearing to use a Michigan Supreme Court opinion to provide cover, created an entirely new form of unconstitutional county government to occupy the Constitutional government of the people known as the “Boards of supervisors” through a set of unconstitutional statutes, being Public Act 261 of 1966, indexed at MCL 46.401-46.416 et seq., having no operation under color of any law, clearly usurped the peoples’ Constitutional “board of supervisors” and their specific authority set forth and granted in their Constitution of 1963, Article VII, Section 7, 8, and 9, ratified by a vote of the people of the State of Michigan in 1964. When statutes and constitutional provisions are construed, the judiciary has no [legislative] or [administrative authority], but only the "judicial power," which involves resolving the case before it and determining the meaning of the [law created] by either the Legislature or the people directly, (The people may directly create law by [initiative] or [constitutional amendment] only). When the Michigan Supreme Court exercises the "judicial power," it is, as said by Justice Cooley, concerned with a determination of what the existing law is, even in "changing" a mistaken interpretation, rather than making a "predetermination of what the law shall be for the regulation of all future cases," which is an act that "distinguishes... a legislative act from a judicial one." Cooley, Constitutional Limitations, p 91. Simply creating a County Board of Commissioners out of thin air by legislative act without a Constitutional initiative, or amendment approved by the people of the State of Michigan renders the legislative statutes, indexed at MCL 46.401 through, but not limited to 409; MCL 46.11, et seq., (being Public Act 156 of 1851, as amended) unconstitutional; therefore the unconstitutional entity known as the Antrim County Board of Commissioners, clearly not acting under the color of any law, is hereby unconstitutional from its inception. See Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 442, 6 Sup. Ct. 1121, 1125 (1886). "An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed" (Emphasis added). It would appear that the progressives within the State’s government, in creating the County Board of Commissioners failed to ask the people of the State of Michigan what they wanted or following the normal course of action to change the State’s Constitution by initiative or referendum, circumvented and failed present the people with a chance to vote on the question of the creation out of thin air, without the Constitutional authority, an entity known as County Board of Commissioners, an entirely newly created form of county government, made up of newly formed “districts” from which board members were taken to sit on this newly created unconstitutional county board of commissioners. Therefore, usurped the Boards of supervisors, the only true Constitutional form of county government under Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9, and the peoples’ Constitution cannot be changed by legislative act since the Michigan Constitution of 1963 does not provide for such authority to the State legislators for the creation of an entity known as County Board of Commissioners. 5. The unconstitutional County Board of Commissioners has absolutely no inherent Constitutional authority granted by the people of the State of Michigan. The unconstitutional County Board of Commissioners has usurp and is occupying the Constitutional board of supervisors powers, administrative authorities, and legislative authority granted by the people. See Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 442, 6 Sup. Ct. 1121, 1125 (1886), "An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed" (Emphasis added). What are the intentions of these usurpation actions, motives and intentions of the unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners as they relate to the unlawful exercise of usurpation and occupying the peoples’ Constitutional authority granted to the County Board of Supervisors in accordance with the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, 9, and the legislative law, the legitimacy and constitutional authority under which the entity known as the “County Board of Commissioners” claims to be acting must be presented as evidence of its Constitutionality for its existence, the superintending control, and lastly, the necessity of the position and the corporate organization to the public that already voted to establish their Boards of supervisors in the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9. There exists no Constitutional or lawful legislative information, or authority on the operations, control, functioning, and fiscal integrity of the entity known as the County Board of Commissioners anywhere in the Michigan Constitution of 1963; nor does the Michigan Constitution of 1963 provide any authority for the entity known as the County Board of Commissioners to enter into Union contracts with County officers, and employees, or make promises of future tax dollars spent on union pension funds, health benefits, and salaries. It is impossible to reform an unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners form of county government, having no inherent Constitutional authority from the people for its very existence and is even more inconceivable to end false claims, unconstitutional Union contracts, and the unconstitutional collection of the people’s tax dollars; the issuance of tax money to non-profit organizations for political purposes as opposed to Constitutional authority without first a total accountability and transparency of exactly what this unconstitutional entity known as County Board of Commissioners and its unconstitutional Board Members who have usurped and are now unconstitutionally occupying the Constitutional, and de jur government positions of authority known as the Boards of supervisors. One form of government cannot be interchange and then argued the County Board of Commissioners, a entity, a newly created form of county government, made up from newly created districts not found in the Michigan Constitution of 1963, as expressing the people’s will under their Constitutional mandates, specially found in Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9, since the unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners was established by legislative statute (fiat) indexed at MCL 46.401 through, but not limited to MCL 46.409; MCL 46.11, et seq., (Public Act 156 of 1851, as amended) without any Constitutional authority, deriving its members from newly created districts within County at large. The Constitutionally created Boards of supervisors was created by Constitutional authority granted at Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9; deriving its members from the duly elected Supervisors from each organized Township within County, therefore acting under the full color of law. 6. The usurpation and unlawful occupation by the unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners, of the Constitutional Board of supervisors continues to accelerate the precipitous climate of the publics’ anger, suspicion, distrust, mistrust, and continues to create an adversarial relationship between the voters of County and the unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners; the people (electors) who continue to believe in the Constitutionality of their elected Board of Supervisors, members who are made up of duly elected Township Supervisors from each organized township in County under the only Constitutional authority granted by the people to the State’s Legislatures under Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9, to control, operate legislatively, and who have exclusive power to fix the compensation of county officers not otherwise provided by law. The unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners, a usurper, continues to perpetuate a culture of abuse, graft, abuse of authority, and make unlawful decisions detrimental to the electors of County. The unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners continues to deny, abuse, usurp, and maliciously interfere with the protected Rights of the people of County to vote and elect their members of the County Board of Supervisors; representing the peoples’ political interests in County; provide notice to the public at large of a Constitutional Board of Supervisors meeting; the Right of the people to participate in their local government, have an equal chance to perfect a change in the outcome of the County Board of Supervisors decision(s) at a public hearing, by and through the direct and indirect neglect and malicious intent to usurp the Michigan’s Constitutional Board of Supervisors of their County, acting under color of law. “by what Constitutional authority” does the unconstitutional entity known as the County Board of Commissioners exercise control, administrative authority, legislative authority, and exclusive power to fix the compensation of county officers not otherwise provided by law over the Constitutionally created Board of Supervisors, whose members are Constitutionally elected and approved by the voters of the State of Michigan in their Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9. Of course, if there is no such provision in the fundamental Constitutional authority of the people, from which the people can infer a creation of the quasi corporation known as the County Board of Commissioners in potentia, if the quasi corporation sought to be created by an invalid statute Public Act unknown to the constitution or by implication is excluded because the constitution itself establishes the agency which is to perform the functions, there can be no basis for the color of authority requisite to the recognition of a de facto corporation. See Hildreth v. McIntire, 1 J. J. Marsh. 206 (Ky. 1829); People v. Town of Nevada, 6 Cal. 143 (1856); Colton v. Rossi, 9 Cal. 595 (1858); Snyder v. Studebaker, suprcs note 34; Att’y Gen. v. Marr, 55 Mich. 445, 21 N. W. 883 (1885); Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 442, 6 Sup. Ct. 1121, 1125 (1886); Eaton v. Walker, 76 Mich. 579, 43 N. W. 638 (1889); City of Guthrie v. Territory, 1 Okla. 188, 31 Pac. 190 (1892); Atchison, T. & S. F. R. R. v. Kearney County, 58 Kan. 19, 48 Pac. 583 (1897). Therefore, the County Board of Commissioners is not operating as a “de facto” county board of supervisors, having no inherent Constitutional power or authority under Public Act 261 of 1966; indexed at MCL 46.401-409 creating unconstitutional “districts” from which members of this unconstitutional County Board of Commissioners were unconstitutionally elected from, and having no inherent Constitutional power or authority under Public Act 261 of 1966, and indexed at MCL 46.11 et seq., creating unconstitutional legislative powers and authority not granted to them by the people of the State of Michigan, and is repugnant to the Michigan Constitution of 1963, specifically, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9. See Norton v Shelby, supra, "An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed" (Emphasis added). In fact, county board of commissioners and its members are persona non grata! The people being armed with sufficient facts presented demanding under “what authority do you operate,” clearly usurping the intent of the people of the State of Michigan and their Boards of supervisors. The State Legislature unconstitutionally adopted Public Act 261 of 1966, indexed at MCL 46.401-46.416 et seq., having established by law (without constitutional authority) newly created [districts] within each organized county of the State, as opposed to Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Section7, mandating duly elected township supervisors members come from each organized [township] within each organized County of the State of Michigan, being directly repugnant to the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9. Having demonstrated clear facts of the Michigan County Board of Commissioners, and its board members usurpation of the County Boards of supervisors, and its members, what action will the people take against the County Board of Commissioners, made up of nine (9) district members. See Michigan Attorney General Opinion No. 6964, stating in pertinent part:

The question of the Legislature's authority to prescribe qualifications for the constitutional office of circuit judge was considered in Attorney General, ex rel Cook v O'Neill, 280 Mich 649, 658; 274 NW 445 (1937). There, the election of the defendant to the office of Saginaw County circuit judge was challenged for failure to comply with 1935 PA 107, section 40, which required a candidate for the office of circuit judge to be admitted to practice law for a period of at least eight years. The court declared the statute unconstitutional, holding that the Legislature could not, by statute, prescribe qualifications for that constitutional office beyond those found in the constitution. See also, People, ex rel Hughes v May, 3 Mich 598 (1855). When the Legislature itself establishes a public office, however, it may prescribe qualifications for election to that office. People, ex rel Wexford County v Kearney, 345 Mich 680, 688; 77 NW2d 115 (1956). (AG Op No. 6964, p. 1). (Emphasis added).

1 posted on 04/07/2011 1:20:55 PM PDT by paratrooper82
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To: paratrooper82

By any chance have you read the one man/one vote decision of the United States Supreme Court promulgated post 1963?


2 posted on 04/07/2011 1:29:24 PM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Cincinnatus
Yes, in Avery v. Midland County, 390 U.S. 474; 88 S Ct 1114; 29 L Ed 2d 45 (1968), but does not address the issue of changing States Constitutions to reflect the will of the US Supreme Court opinions!

If a Board of Supervisors who takes a member from each organized township is unconstitutional, why do more than 20 other States still have them?

It would appear that no one asked the people of the State of Michigan what they wanted, by mandate of the people. Read Norton v Shelby Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 442, 6 Sup. Ct. 1121, 1125 (1886). “An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed”

I would have never been suspect of this form of county government until the States progressives began to eliminate our local Township government altogether! The Progressives wanted to eliminate townships in 1908, but, lost by a single vote!

3 posted on 04/07/2011 1:38:47 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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I have no Pony in the Michigan sweepstakes, but we had a similar crisis here in New York back then: just what do you do when the Supreme Court declares a provision of a state constitution unconstitutional? The answer is the legislature has to do something and quick, because both the state legislatures themselves and the local governing bodies need to be constituted somehow.In the absence of a valid state constitutional provision the state legislature is the only body empowered to act, so they did.

In New York stop-gap measures were employed and tested, so in fact I happen to live in a county that still has a Board of Supervisors similar to the Michigan constitution, and we had imposed a “weighted vote” system so that one supervisor may have 49 votes and another 300, etc. This was tested in court and found to be barely constitutional as a temporary measure. That of course was more than forty years ago and no one has challenged it since. Meanwhile the state legislature provided a variety of local options which can be adopted by local law. Most everywhere now has equal-district county legislators. Except here, of course.


4 posted on 04/07/2011 2:11:41 PM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Cincinnatus
That is true, but, your state legislature may not act without first obtaining the authority from the people by mandate. This is accomplished by an “imitative” or by “referendum” of the people to amend the State's Constitution. Without this authority, any act the legislature takes in adopting a Public Act or statute becomes unconstitutional. To do otherwise, would anoint your state legislature as “king” and they could create any kind or form of government they choose without first asking the people or getting the people's permission or authority. Again, Norton v Shelby, supra., “it simply would not exist from its inception.” (Paraphrasing) This is exactly the problem with Michigan's board of commissioners form of government, NO ONE ASKED THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANTED. Therefore, no Constitutional mandate or authority exists for the legislative act creating them.
5 posted on 04/07/2011 2:23:00 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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“Therefore, no Constitutional mandate or authority exists for the legislative act creating them.”

Reading the single paragraph humungous text was a chore I gave up on. So, just tell me this: Did the state Constitution in Michigan GIVE the state legislature the power to, by legislation, set a state standard for county governments; whether or not the Constitution itself established such a standard.


6 posted on 04/07/2011 4:19:21 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
I am sorry you could not read the entire text. I did not have the time necessary to change it. In answer to your question, No.

The only reason the State legislature created the entirely new county form of government “board of commissioners” was to [centralize government power] and to make sure all tax dollars went to the State for redistribution. We can all see the results of centralized State government and the redistribution of our tax dollars.

Detroit alone lost more than 800,000 population in the last few years. The city is a disaster, city officials are considering bull dozing most if, since most of the vacant homes are not even fit to live in.

7 posted on 04/07/2011 8:37:09 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: paratrooper82

Under our federal system the states are sovereign. ALL forms of local government are creatures of the state government. The state government in a republican form of government (guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution)reflects the sovereignty of the people in the form of a state legislature elected by the people. It is from that power that all other forms and institutions are derived. The whole concept of popular initiative and referendum is a fairly recent (early 20th century) concept not universally accepted. I don’t believe a single state constitution ORIGINATED with the people. They all came initially from the state legislatures. That some state constitutions require popular approval is my deference of the legislatures, which in turn derive their power from the people.


8 posted on 04/07/2011 8:49:14 PM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Cincinnatus
“I don’t believe a single state constitution ORIGINATED with the people.” Untrue. Michigan has a Constitutional convention every ten (10) years, and the people either decide to write a new constitution or elect to decline the constitutional convention. The convention is a drawn out process that takes several years to complete. The last convention was in 1963. The Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, Sections 7, 8, and 9 created a “board of supervisors, and granted to it [legislative] authority. The board of supervisors will be made up of “. . . one member from each organized township.” Instead the progressive wrote and adopted legislation that create “county districts” from which a member of the board of commissioners is selected, districts that are created by the powers that be, based upon the ten year census population.

In 1908 convention, the progressives attempted to get rid of our local tonwship government, this failed by a single vote.

Simply put, the people did not mandate a board of commissioner form of government, and the State legislature did not have any constitutional authority to create one. See Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 442, 6 Sup. Ct. 1121, 1125 (1886). “An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed”

9 posted on 04/07/2011 9:01:04 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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“Detroit alone lost more than 800,000 population in the last few years. The city is a disaster, city officials are considering bull dozing most if, since most of the vacant homes are not even fit to live in.”

O.K., I understand you explanation of the Michigan law, and I understand the above statement.

How are the two related? Are you saying that some county government entity controlled by the state government - not local city of Detroit politicians - are responsible for what has happened in Detroit?


10 posted on 04/08/2011 12:46:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: paratrooper82

“The only reason the State legislature created the entirely new county form of government “board of commissioners” was to [centralize government power] and to make sure all tax dollars went to the State for redistribution.”

O.K. You’ve established the “reason”.

My question was, regardless of the reason, regardless of the merits or demerits of the idea, just because the state Constitution did not establish such bodies, does the state Constitution have any provision(s) that deny the legislature the legal power to establish those bodies.

I ask this not in defense of the bodies themselves, but only to establish just what it is, legally and Constitutionally, that denies the legislature the power to act as they did.

I am not up on the Michigan state Constitution and am uninformed as to the powers it establishes and the powers it does not establish for the state legislature; or what mandates it sets as the ONLY basis for the formation of “local” government units. To me it is those things, and only those things - and NOT the merits or demerits of the reasons for the law - that can make the law “unconstitutional”.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 1:00:32 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: paratrooper82

From whence came the FIRST state constitution of Michigan which provided for periodic constitutional conventions?


12 posted on 04/09/2011 9:12:39 AM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Cincinnatus

“From whence came the FIRST state constitution of Michigan which provided for periodic constitutional conventions?”

1836


13 posted on 04/09/2011 6:29:36 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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” . . . just because the state Constitution did not establish such bodies, . . . “

You see, that is the problem, the Michigan Constitution of 1963, Article 7, 8, and 9 did create the “board of supervisors” taking one member from each organized township.

The State legislature simply came along and decided to create a new form of government called “boards of commissioners” with one member from districts in the county created entirely by the State legislature.

No, there is no legislative authority for the State to create a new form of government, more to the liking of the progressives.

The bottom line here is that, NO ONE ASK THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN.

If the State legislature is now the King, then we no longer have a “republic” under Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.

14 posted on 04/09/2011 6:35:27 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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Again, playing a lawyerly devils advocate, you have noted what the Michigan Constitution DID DO - it created county “boards of supervisors”.

The question was, did that same Constitution EXPRESSLY deny the legislature the power to create other local units of government.

For example: Article VII, Sec 2: “.........The law may permit the organization of county government in form different from that set forth in this constitution and......”

“The law” may permit - does that not suggest that the origin of said law would be the legislature?


15 posted on 04/11/2011 1:46:39 PM PDT by Wuli
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“The question was, did that same Constitution EXPRESSLY deny the legislature the power to create other local units of government.” Again, NO! There are no expressed authority in the State Constitution for the legislature to create any other form of county government. In fact, there are several Michigan Supreme Court cases that have opined: “the state legislature is not king and may not act outside of the expressed authority found in the Constitution.”
16 posted on 04/12/2011 5:19:00 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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Are you sure? What is the "Constitutional" meaning of the provision in the Michigan Constitution that I cited in my last post? It seems to directly say that "the law" (legislature?) may direct other formations of county governance than the Constitution has specified.

I said: "For example: Article VII, Sec 2: '[snip].........The law may permit the organization of county government in form different from that set forth in this constitution and......[snip]'" Is everyone certain that in that provision "the law" does not include the state legislature?

17 posted on 04/12/2011 6:03:42 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
That section was determined by the Michigan Supreme Court to allow the legislature to set statues for “incorporation” of existing organized counties. Did not allow for the creation of organized county governments per se.
18 posted on 04/12/2011 6:08:07 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: paratrooper82

Thanks for the clarification, and really thanks to the Michigan supreme court for instituting that clarification; and with those kind of FACTS, instead of mere screaming rhetoric - !!!! IT’S UNCONSTITUTIONAL !!!!!!! - you are finally making rational arguments.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 8:42:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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