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To: Ladysforest; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks

Lorenda Starfelt has a wiki page; she was quite an accomplished film producer, working with her husband Brad Mays.

One of their projects was a documentary film [which also has a wiki page], “The Audacity of Democracy”, “..an in-depth look at the P.U.M.A. movement in general and one of its most controversial leaders, Darragh Murphy, in particular.”

In the docu. blurb is this interesting bit: “Brad Mays quickly came under fire from various online pro-Obama blogs, citing conflict-of-interest due to the production having been financed by PUMA-Pac itself. A vociferously anti-PUMA site called StupidPumas posted a page entitled ‘Stupid Brad Mays’, criticizing the filmmaker for not doing proper investigative work on the PUMA movement. Mays acknowledged these concerns, while maintaining that the film would be an objective account of what he saw and heard during the Democratic primary. About a week before the Democratic convention in Denver, ALL OF MAYS’ CAMERA EQUIPMENT WAS STOLEN WHILE EN ROUTE TO CHICAGO. Although most of the gear was EVENTUALLY replaced, the crucial Chicago shoot was seriously compromised.”

AND: “Citing alleged electoral malfeasance including caucus fraud on the part of rival candidate Barack Obama’s juggernaut campaign, PUMA attempted, without success, to secure the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination for their candidate of choice, Senator and former First Lady Hillary Clinton.”

Starfelt and Trump certainly shared gung-ho for Hillary sentiments, didn’t they? Given the woman’s professional history and pro-Hillary activism, it seems plausible that she and Trump might not have been strangers. IF they knew each other, and IF she was working through investigation [for Trump?] to expose Obama, the possibility that Trump is being a stalking horse for Hillary gains credibility.


102 posted on 04/05/2011 12:15:37 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: GGMac
...Starfelt and Trump certainly shared gung-ho for Hillary sentiments, didn’t they? Given the woman’s professional history and pro-Hillary activism, it seems plausible that she and Trump might not have been strangers. IF they knew each other, and IF she was working through investigation [for Trump?] to expose Obama, the possibility that Trump is being a stalking horse for Hillary gains credibility.

Yet what 'Lori Starfelt' posted on texasdarlin DID NOTHING toward the PUMA cause. All THAT did was establish the MYTH that the announcements were published as a result of a LIST - which gave legitimacy to the announcements SENT TO HER BY E-MAIL from Hawaii.

And after that, the LIE went around the world, into the head of Bill O'Reilly and out his mouth!

READ WHAT SHE WROTE:

“...What you know is that Texas Darlin’ has received an email forwarded from the Hawaii State Library that is a a clipping from the Honolulu Advertiser’s Sunday August 13th, 1961 edition that proves the Department of Vital Records provided a list of births for the previous week that included Barack Obama – that’s what you know.

You’re not taking my word for it. You’re taking TD’s word for it. I have given her the name and number of the librarian I spoke with and she has the forwarded email. You, yourself, are free to call either Vital Records or the Honolulu Advertiser and ask questions about how birth certificates and birth announcements were handled in 1961...”

NOW TELL ME - IS THE ABOVE TRUE OR NOT? WERE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS PUBLISHED AS THE RESULT OF A LIST?

110 posted on 04/05/2011 2:33:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: GGMac
I came upon this thread very much by chance. A few things:
1. My wife Lorenda Starfelt died on March 15, 2011, of sarcoma, a rare cancer.
2. Neither Lorenda nor myself know, or have ever known, Donald Trump.
3. Lorenda has never lied on a political website. Not once, not ever, not even a little. She tried to use measured language in all of her posts.
4. Both Lorenda and myself got as far away from the PUMA movement as we could, within roughly 6 months of shooting in Denver, August 2008.
4. Lorenda’s death is not being faked. A few people got the date wrong, that's all.

There's nothing in any of this, no lying, no conspiracy, no manipulation, nothing. Just the untimely death of a beautiful, creative human being.

181 posted on 04/15/2011 10:20:06 AM PDT by Brad Mays Filmmaker
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