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Sarkozy's ...'poisonous' debate on rising Muslim population in France savaged by religious leaders
Daily Mail ^ | March 30, 2011 | Peter Allen

Posted on 03/30/2011 2:48:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

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To: La Enchiladita

The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one.

France is not ready to admit that Muslim immigrants are a problem.


21 posted on 03/30/2011 7:23:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: spintreebob

“So how do we find the fanatics?
What do we do once we find them?”

Step One - you STOP PROTECTING THEM...just as you point out about Major Hassan. If we had that open talk about Islam, he would have been sent to the funny farm long before he got a chance to shoot up our best.

Step Two - you ADMIT that some types of people are pre-disposed to violence and terrorism. If they pray to Allah...then you treat EVERY ONE of them as a potential threat. When Muslims renounce and actually quit terrorism as a means to achieve their goals...you treat them just like Catholics.

Step Three - you RESPECT people that are frightened by the terroristic behavior of these people. If they want to lay out a carpet, stick their butts in the air, and start praying to Allah, at the airport...fine, but they MUST understand that they will scare people and that it might mean some serious body-cavity searches and missed flights. And no DAMN lawsuits.

So that’s a start.


22 posted on 03/30/2011 7:42:38 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/265)
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To: La Enchiladita

A bunch of Atheist and Agnostic Frenchmen againt the Muzzies. We should ALL be rooting for the secular French hear.


23 posted on 03/30/2011 7:44:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: La Enchiladita

A bunch of Atheist and Agnostic Frenchmen againt the Muzzies. We should ALL be rooting for the secular French here.


24 posted on 03/30/2011 7:44:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: spintreebob

“It is illogical and sinful to assume that anyone is unqualified (or qualified).”

No it isn’t; with our current policies and quotas in place (in the workplace, universities, etc.) there is no reason to assume that someone who could “check a box” is anything more than just that. If those groups would like to be treated as competent adults, then let them scrap the system; I’m not holding my breath. Until those policies/quotas are done away with, there is very real reason to be suspicious of anyone in those categories in terms of competence.

The system in place is de facto government acknoledgment of racial and gender inferiority.


25 posted on 03/30/2011 8:26:38 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cincinna
John Gizzi of Human Events tweeted yesterday

"Will pressure from his own party keep Sarkozy from running in '12 and instead defer to.....Juppe? FIllon? Or Christine LeGarde, maybe?"

What do you make of that?

26 posted on 03/30/2011 9:34:44 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: rmlew

I’m guessing you wouldnt support Sarko for re-election in 2012.
Who then? The neo-fascist anti-American anti-Semite anti-Israel Marine le Pen? The Socialist candidate, DSK or Hollande, believers in the supremacy of the State over individual rights and liberty?
Two sides of the same totalitarian coin?
Between a rock and a hard place, aren’t you?


27 posted on 03/30/2011 11:31:56 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Impy

Not much, Impy.
Sarko still remains the strongest force in his party. I don’t think he can be forced out; my bet would be he is the only one who could possibly win.


28 posted on 03/30/2011 11:40:01 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: La Enchiladita

Bedfordshire Police Instructions regarding Terrorist & Dangerous Criminals

Posted on January 27, 2011 by lorrystdavid|

THESE ARE INSTRUCTIONS HANDED OUT TO ALL OFFICERS AT C.I.D COURSES AND ANTI-TERRORISTS COURSES IN THE BEDFORDSHIRE FORCE/SERVICE UNITED KINGDOM

Bedfordshire Police’s rules regarding terrorists and dangerous criminals:

If they’re non-Muslim

• Consider the most opportune time of day to be able to arrest suspects with minimum resistance
• Apply all necessary force to enter the premises and arrest suspects accordingly.

If they’re Muslim:

• Community leaders must be consulted before raids into Muslim houses.
• Officers must not search occupied bedrooms and bathrooms before dawn.
• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises.
• Cameras and camcorders should not be used in case of capturing women in inappropriate dress.
• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
• Officers should take their shoes off before raiding a Muslim house.
• The reasons for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
• Officers must not touch holy books or religious artifacts without permission.
• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.

http://lorrystdavid.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/bedfordshire-police-instructions-regarding-terrorist-dangerous-criminals/


29 posted on 03/31/2011 6:12:59 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: blam

“When the Muslims are capable, they will kill every Christian and Jew.
Our children and grandchildren will one day ask why we didn’t deal with Islam when we still could”

I couldnt agree more. They are like roaches. They are outbreeding us and have no moral issue with killing anyone who does not believe as they do. The group that will also obtain control is the group who will do ANYTHING to get it. I just can not understand why more people are not as alarmed by this so called “religion” as I am.


30 posted on 03/31/2011 12:56:29 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: KeyLargo

“Bedfordshire Police Instructions regarding Terrorist & Dangerous Criminals..”

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!The savages have won.


31 posted on 03/31/2011 12:58:41 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: BobL; spintreebob

BobL, notice how quickly spintreeboob got the discussion off topic and then HE was the one who decided to return to topic, and guess what we have here? A mooselimb apologist. Spintreebob also ignored the very pointed point I made re islam in response to him, that islam is NOT a “religion,” it is a political system.

Spintreeboob, why don’t you get yourself a radio show and see how many are interested in YOUR version of truth, since you have deemed all of talk radio to be “dishonest.” (I suspect that means you simply find conservative, patriotic American viewpoints to be uncomfortable.)

You PC fascists are the ones who demonize the TRUTH about islam, as a way of furthering your agenda. You are a sharia and islamist enabler... at best... just like the LYING lamestream media.


32 posted on 03/31/2011 1:16:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Well the burka ban took effect and it is a great victory. Why on earth isn’t Palin pushing this in America? We need to nip it in the bud here before it grows into a forest.


33 posted on 04/11/2011 5:32:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Exactly. Why are American feminists so silent on these visible symbols of oppression of women, so contrary to our American values of freedom? They dress this way also to flaunt the inroads they are making in our society.


34 posted on 04/12/2011 2:07:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: spintreebob; BobL

Good discussion from both of you :)

Thanks.


35 posted on 04/15/2011 10:23:09 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: spintreebob; BobL

Good discussion from both of you :)

Thanks.


36 posted on 04/15/2011 10:24:03 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

You’re welcome...our country needs to have these discussions.


37 posted on 04/15/2011 2:22:41 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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