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US 'Winding Down' Bondsteel Base in Kosovo
Balkan Instight ^ | 3/28/11 | Lawrence Marzouk

Posted on 03/30/2011 1:16:21 PM PDT by Bokababe

The large military base in southern Kosovo faces reduction or closure as strategic attention shifts from the Balkans, US ambassador Christopher Dell tells Jane's.

(Excerpt) Read more at balkaninsight.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; kosovo; nato; serbia; wrongwar
Good news, except now what for Kosovo? They can't support themselves; organized crime is running the government; they can't protect their phony "sovereignty" without NATO. In short, they are screwed.
1 posted on 03/30/2011 1:16:29 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 03/30/2011 1:17:38 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Leaving Clinton’s worthless war to make room for Obama’s.


3 posted on 03/30/2011 1:27:09 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC
CAn anyone post when Camp Bondsteel was built?

Wikipedia talks about the helicopter pads (52) built in 1999.

My guestimate is the base dated from the mid-1990s which makes it 15 years old. Not too bad for a “temporary deployment’ to ensure security for the locals.

Wonder if we will beat that record in Libya or where ever Obama decides we must go next.

4 posted on 03/30/2011 1:43:29 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Nip

It began being built within a month of the end of the NATO Bombing campaign. I believe it was in June or July 1999. But at the time there were those in the military who said that Bondsteel was on the drawing board for years.

One of my friends who researched it said, “Kosovo war cost at least $40 billion and Camp Bondsteel apparently cost $350 million to build and runs at a cost of $148 million a year.”

That doesn’t count the cost of our political support for Kosovo independence, nor the financial aid we send to Kosovo every year as a result of our intervention to get this built.


5 posted on 03/30/2011 1:55:38 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Cutting every dime to Kososvo should be a given in the next budget.

Any Republican who attempts to keep this going is fueling his own primary oponents, and the tea parties will make that happen.


6 posted on 03/30/2011 2:07:12 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Nip

THe site of Camp Bondsteel had it’s first day of operations on June 16th, 1999.

There were some units on the ground a few days earlier than that.

Every person I personally know who has gone through a deployment at Bondsteel has returned to the US having lost all faith in the US government. It’s a really wicked endeavour to have US soldiers protecting a local population that are controlled by either drug or sex slave smugglers, or the subservient farmer class relatives of those smugglers, and the whole time having US taxpayers pay the smugglers to form government services which are completely corrupted graft operations.


7 posted on 03/30/2011 2:10:55 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Bokababe

Oh quite the place that Kososvo. One of those places we fought for on the wrong side. Ya know, just like Libya.


8 posted on 03/30/2011 2:17:06 PM PDT by biff
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To: Bokababe

Wow...


9 posted on 03/30/2011 2:23:29 PM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Bokababe

BondSteeling, the national U.S. foreign policy disgrace of sacrificing Christians, and supporting Islamic Terrorists, worldwide.


10 posted on 03/30/2011 2:23:50 PM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: Bokababe

What’s it gonna take for Serbia to feel secure enough to retake that place?


11 posted on 03/30/2011 2:30:10 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Bokababe

It probably is time to transition out of Kosovo. That being said, we went in for the right reason: to save Kosovars from being massacred by the Serbs.

Serbia has now been reduced to its basic appropriate size and NATO deterrence should ensure the Serbs don’t try anything.


12 posted on 03/30/2011 2:34:07 PM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Bokababe; biff; editor-surveyor; All
The media’s most forbidden topic(memory refresher)
13 posted on 03/30/2011 2:36:29 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Poundstone

Yawn....


14 posted on 03/30/2011 2:42:28 PM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Bokababe

Seems wherever we go all over the world we just screw up peoples lives . Another place we had no business messing with.


15 posted on 03/30/2011 2:45:31 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Poundstone
It probably is time to transition out of Kosovo. That being said, we went in for the right reason: to save Kosovars from being massacred by the Serbs.

2500 people on all sides had died before we got there. 10,000 died on all sides during the NATO bombing. After we entered, at least 250,000 Serbs were permanently ethnically cleansed from Kosovo, many were murdered and at least 150 ancient churches were desecrated or destroyed. On our watch, Kosovo was allowed to run 70% of illegal drugs to Europe, as well as human, weapons and organ trafficking.

The truth is that we did no good, and a lot of harm with our intervention, but we were subjected to a mountain of propaganda and most of us didn't know the difference between the truth and the lies.

I was against the NATO Bombing of Kosovo for many of the same reasons that I am against our bombing of Libya -- it isn't in our interest to be there, it will likely do more harm than good -- and I don't have to like or defend Ghaddafi or Milosevic to know in my gut that it was a bad idea in both cases.

16 posted on 03/30/2011 3:09:54 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Poundstone

Another Jihadist Cheerleader!

When you root against the Serbs, make sure you remember who you are rooting for.


17 posted on 03/30/2011 4:33:13 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib
We're broke, we should cease being the world's policeman and heed George Washington's admonition to avoid foreign entanglements.
18 posted on 03/30/2011 7:13:54 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Bokababe; BerryDingle

Having kicked out the people that founded the nation, all NATO has to do now is bring in the bull dozers and cover the grave.

Mission accomplished: Christian Nation desoiled.

Thanks Bill and Wesley.


19 posted on 03/30/2011 8:41:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Poundstone

>> “That being said, we went in for the right reason: to save Kosovars from being massacred by the Serbs.” <<

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That has to rate as the biggest crock of excrement posted here in at least a week. We kicked out the real Kosovars and donated their land to the global islamic drug trade. (and that was the exact reason we did it too)
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20 posted on 03/30/2011 8:47:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Bokababe

It will make an excellent base for the Serbian armored corps.


21 posted on 03/31/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by SRT8 man (I recommend SRT8 for your muscle car needs)
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To: editor-surveyor

Your comments are a crock. The record of Serb butchery in Kosovo is clear and well documented. I’m no Kosovar apologist, and there’s much going on there that is disturbing. But the proximate cause for NATO intervention was to stop a civilian bloodbath at the hands of the Serbs — and not some vast US-led conspiracy against the poor misunderstood Serbs that some people on this topic delude themselves into believing. Grow up, wise up, and read up about the facts, idiot.


22 posted on 03/31/2011 7:35:03 AM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone

There were no saints in the Balkans, and we should have heeded the words of Bismarck, “The whole of the Balkans is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.”


23 posted on 03/31/2011 7:40:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Poundstone

The only crock here is the baseless propoganda that apologists like you barf out, facts are mere inconveniences.


24 posted on 03/31/2011 9:48:05 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Poundstone

>> “But the proximate cause for NATO intervention was to stop a civilian bloodbath at the hands of the Serbs” <<

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Horse shit!

The only civilians in a blood bath were the legitimate population of kosovo, many of which were gunned down by US aircraft as they fled.

You need the cast iron cataracts blasted out of your eyes. (Idiot)


25 posted on 03/31/2011 10:00:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Poundstone; All
Today we know what we didn't know then:

1. The Albanians were conducting an insurgency that always had in it's mind to detach Kosovo from Serbia & make it Albanian territory. In that vein, Albanians attacked Serbian police officers and then retreated to their villages and hid behind civilians so that an attack on civilians could be used for propaganda purposes. Typical Muslim guerrilla warfare that even the Palestinians use.

2. "Operation Horseshoe", the supposed "Serbian plan to exterminate and expel the Albanians" was a hoax -- and a hoax so sloppy that they couldn't even get the title of it right -- they used the Croat dialect for the word "Horseshoe", something that no Serb would have ever, ever done. It sounds like a small point, but it's huge. It's as though if England was our enemy and they accused us of producing an inflammatory document that was titled "America's Defence", and used it as an excuse to bomb us.

3. Virtually all of the "Serbian atrocities" (and yes, there were some, meanwhile Albanians were cutting up Serbs and selling their bodyparts, so it wasn't one sided) came AFTER the NATO Bombs began to fall when some Serbs out of frustration with NATO bombing them, took it out on the Albanian population who had invited those bombs. There were also stories of heroism which the media ignored, of Serbs and good-willed Albanians helping each other to survive during the bombing.

3. If you want an atrocity, I'd say that this one ranks right up there, and Serbs didn't do this, Albanians didn't do this, WE (as part of NATO) DID THIS! Little Milica Rakic is considered by the Church to be one of the New Martyrs. Here is her icon:

Milica Rakic can rightfully be considered an early Martyr to the New World Order.


26 posted on 03/31/2011 1:11:14 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

You Serb-Nuts can continue to inhabit your fantasy land while the rest of the world moves on.


27 posted on 03/31/2011 1:34:57 PM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone
You Serb-Nuts can continue to inhabit your fantasy land while the rest of the world moves on.

I'd say it's more like you NATO-loving neocons who choose any enemy of the moment (more likely chosen by international corporate giants) and kill as many Christian civilians as you chose, will hold your head high until you are defunded and defunct.

Enjoy the shiny new multi-million dollar building while you can, because most Americans want our soldiers to report to the American chain of command and a president who reports to Congress and the American people, not to the UN, NATO or anyone else. NATO's days are numbered, just like the UN's. Please God, may that day of defunding come soon!

28 posted on 03/31/2011 1:56:05 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Poundstone

So you approve of Hashim Thaci’s US backed KLA that murdered Serbs for body parts, who’s the nut here Poundsand?


29 posted on 03/31/2011 3:32:36 PM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Poundstone

Yes, Commies are brutal scum and will kill to maintain control.

However, it was the Serb CHRISTIANS that have been the victims of the Albanian criminals since the mid-1980’s.

When you support the KLA, you are supporting the Jihadists against the Christian, and that’s exactly what we allowed to happen.


30 posted on 04/01/2011 5:11:57 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Poundstone

Go pound sand, Pound-stone.


31 posted on 04/01/2011 5:13:46 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Poundstone
>>>>>>>>>I’m no Kosovar apologist<<<<<<<

Your choice of words tells differently.the use of word "Kosovar" smoked you out. "Kosovar" is Albanian, not English word.

In english, the name of inabitants of geographical locations ending with O is formed by adding suffix "an", "oan" or "onian"

Idahoan, Torontonian, not Idahar and Torontar.

In English, inhabitant of Kosovo is Kosovan, not Kosovar. Regardless of ethnicity.

" The political usage of Albanian term "Kosovar" in English is propaganda vehicle to present Albanians in Kosovo as a distinct ethnic group, which they are not. Kosovo Albanians are minority in Serbia, with domicile country of Albania.

This ploy aims to create an impression that "Kosovars" (i.e. Albanians) as the only legitimate inhabitants of Kosovo and to deny this status to Serbs, Turks, Roma, Croats and others.

The very same ploy as using the term "Palestinian" for Arabs to exclude Jews as the rightful inhabitants of PALESTINE.

This ploy was used to spread fabrications of alleged genocide of "Kosovars" while in reality doing criminal acts that may constitute real genocide against Serbs and Roma.

Show me a person who use the term Kosovar for Albanians and I will show you the person who support this genocidal agenda.

32 posted on 05/15/2011 11:18:47 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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