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A fundamentally dishonest speech
Washington Post ^ | March 28, 2011 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 03/29/2011 8:49:46 AM PDT by opentalk

President Obama gave an impassioned, sometimes eloquent, defense of his policies in Libya tonight. But when it came to justifying the limited goals of the military mission, his speech was fundamentally dishonest. Obama presented himself as standing between two extremes — those on the one hand, who want to do nothing in the face of a humanitarian catastrophe, and those on the other who want to invade Libya the way George W. Bush invaded Iraq.

... This is a straw man, and the president knows it. No serious person is arguing that we should “repeat in Libya” what we did in Iraq. No serious person is arguing that we should send hundreds of thousands of ground troops to march on Tripoli and topple Moammar Gaddafi they way we marched on Baghdad and toppled Saddam Hussein. What serious people are suggesting is that we help the Libyan resistance topple Gaddafi’s regime — not by sending American ground forces to do it for them, but by providing them with arms, training, intelligence and air support.

...Another moment of dishonesty came when Obama described the “transfer” of the mission to NATO:

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dishonest; libya; libyaspeech; obama; un
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1 posted on 03/29/2011 8:49:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Obama is in deep doo-doo now if both the Washington Post and NPR are taking issuing with him.


2 posted on 03/29/2011 8:51:06 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: opentalk
ObaMao can't help being fundamentally dishonest.

A sock puppet says what the puppet master tells him to say.

3 posted on 03/29/2011 8:53:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: opentalk

Seems that everything he said last night has been scattered to the wind with the news this morning.


4 posted on 03/29/2011 8:56:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: opentalk

He is not ‘dishonest’ IMO, he is just plain stupid. He has no idea what he is doing or why he is doing it.

He is just responding and doing what ‘someone’ told him to do. He, himself, doesn’t have a clue what is really going on.


5 posted on 03/29/2011 8:58:14 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: opentalk
Typical Compost bozo who stumbles over the truth. He can't quite bring himself to admit what is going on.

Thiessen's criticisms are largely valid, but I say that the President flat out lied to the voters last night. A-10's and AC-130's opening up on every tank or rocket launcher in the government forces is not a "no-fly zone" for humanitarian reasons. We are taking sides. Discussing how to get Ghadafi into exile is part and parcel of this. Why can't the President and his slimy suppporters just "man up"--and tell us what they want to really do (and then apologize to George W. Bush)?

6 posted on 03/29/2011 9:00:09 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: opentalk
"Fundamentally dishonest" is any better than "dishonest"?

Words are used for a reason.

7 posted on 03/29/2011 9:02:28 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: 240B

He is far from stupid. We are the stupid ones for allowing this usurper to aid the rebels in their quest for a caliphate.

Go see 61 @http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2696128/posts


8 posted on 03/29/2011 9:03:40 AM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: All
My favorite exit strategy is called "victory"-- you know, that old fashioned concept of "we win, they lose."

But now that the Crazy Texan is out of the White House, our Post-Modernist, Post-American, Marxist Messiah won't talk about "victory."

So just what would "victory" in Libya look like? And is everyone prepared to pay the price for it?

9 posted on 03/29/2011 9:03:49 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: La Lydia

see # 8


10 posted on 03/29/2011 9:04:59 AM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: opentalk

Obama does not care what anyone thinks or says. His mission, in concert with his fellow travelers, Farrakhan, Wright, Allen, Power, Jarrett, Axelrod, Ayers, Soros, Qaddafi, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Suden, Yemen, etc., is the destruction of the United States of America. If you cannot figure that basic fact out, you are far from the sharpest knife in the drawer.


11 posted on 03/29/2011 9:09:48 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (America Adrift At Sea Without A Captain!!!)
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To: opentalk
What is this supposed “humanitarian catastrophe” of unprecedented scale and viciousness? Why has everyone, at least in official Washington, adopted this fraudulent meme?I've seen not one shred of evidence for it.

Qaddafi, with the usual Arab hyperbole, declared he was going to destroy the opposition when his forces retook Benghazi. How is this any different from the usual savagery that occurs in any civil war?

Last night, on Anderson Cooper, a panel of sycophants praised this speech to the skies. Have these so-called experts completely lost their minds?

This is a dishonest, wrong-headed war being waged by dupe of president.

12 posted on 03/29/2011 9:17:42 AM PDT by mojito
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To: La Lydia

“Obama is in deep doo-doo now if both the Washington Post and NPR are taking issuing with him.”

You got that right! He already had his senstive ego hurt with all the criticism. His speech was supposed to demonstrate his strong leadership. All it got him was more criticism. He could be be heading to a meltdown.


13 posted on 03/29/2011 9:18:53 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: 240B
I take some issue with your conclusion...all he does is directed toward a plan to destroy America....so he may appear stupid, but really he is having a lot of success in completely removing the America you and I and other Freepers cherish so dearly, while the MSM and the syncopates continue to lap up his “...dog breakfast..” as so eloquently declared by John Bolton.
14 posted on 03/29/2011 9:19:59 AM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: opentalk

I read the Obama’s speech on Libya. The short version:
 
He congratulated himself for preventing a massacre in Benghazi. Kudos where due. There is no further plan. “Now what?” at best remains unanswered, and at worst was answered by “To be blunt, we went down that road in Iraq. ... That is not something we can afford to repeat in Libya”. Beyond a halt to heavy arms, fact is: Daffy is still in power, his military is still on the move, we know little of the opposition, and nobody is willing to put boots on the ground.
 
Libya is a repeat of Iraq: to protect a domestic population (Benghazi / Kurds), the UN authorized a US-dominated no-fly zone to give rebels a chance against a brutal dictator in a country where our only viable interest is oil, and the only viable resolution is regime change. Iraq took 18 years to resolve. 9 days into the same thing for Libya, the Obama is abdicating further leadership.
 


15 posted on 03/29/2011 9:20:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: mojito
There is another agenda.

If Obama cared about people so much, he should be helping Japan more.

16 posted on 03/29/2011 9:23:52 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: La Lydia

Marc A. Thiessen (born 1967) is an American author, columnist and political commentator, who served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–2009) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (2001–2004).


17 posted on 03/29/2011 9:24:03 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: opentalk

OweBama was basically trying to talk his base into not jumping off a tall building. He was saying ‘I have to act like Bush, because people will be killed and tortured, but don’t worry, I’m nothing like Bush because I say so.’

(he always says the word I 3 times per sentence. He can’t help it)


18 posted on 03/29/2011 9:27:31 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: opentalk
Every speech Obama has ever read from a teleprompter has been fundamentally dishonest.

Everything about him from his false birth story to his phony biography is fundamentally dishonest. His stories about being born in two different hospitals, his mother and father living living together until he was two, how he got into the most exclusive and expensive prep school in Hawaii and who paid for it, how he got into Columbia and Harvard and who paid for it, he didn't meet Bill Ayers until Ayers held a fundraiser for him even though Ayers had previously gotten him onto foundations, Bill Ayers was just a guy from the neighborhood and their kids went to school together, Obama wrote Dreams of My Father himself, who supported and funded his early political career, his relationship with Rezco, etc.

Everything said by and about Obama is fundamentally dishonest.

19 posted on 03/29/2011 9:33:05 AM PDT by detective
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To: mojito

The media ball-washing of Obama was at full-speed maximum effort.


20 posted on 03/29/2011 9:33:33 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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