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1 posted on 03/26/2011 9:45:43 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Send andrew over to iran to negotiate. Should be interesting.


2 posted on 03/26/2011 9:48:57 AM PDT by org.whodat
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Israel didn’t send in troops to protect Mubarak and it’s not likely to send in troops to protect Gadaffi.


3 posted on 03/26/2011 9:53:59 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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Let unsaid, is that Andrew Sullivan is as queer as a three dollar bill.. and is a Normal-phobe..


4 posted on 03/26/2011 9:54:12 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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When all of these little spats are over ,Muslims (radical Muslims of the Al Quaeda sort) will be in charge of the Middle East .

Their first trial will come when they openly attack Israel and get cooked by the radiation from the Nuclear bombs. Muslims don’t really care how many die, they can always breed more.

Anyone who believes that there will be a Thriving Democracy in any of these countries is not a fool, but a damned fool.

Christians had better leave while the leaving is good. Church’s here should be taking up collections and seeking sponsors to get their people the hell out of there.


5 posted on 03/26/2011 9:56:22 AM PDT by Venturer
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Typical David Horowitz, more information in half a page than most manage in 5 pages. I find it interesting that Samantha Power is back in the “in” crowd with the 0bama White House. I also find it interesting that Soros, when one of his shills is CinC, can find a way to invade a sovereign nation.

Power was right about Rwanda; 5 officers from the San Antonio Police could have stopped that. Every genocide/massacre isn’t Rwanda, though. Unless 0bama is your guy.


6 posted on 03/26/2011 10:09:12 AM PDT by Felis_irritable
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If Obama really means to protect the rights of Libyans he would have to occupy the country for a decade, rewrite its constitution, re-educate its population and institute a democratic educational system. Is that what Sullivan really wants – or has he just not thought this through?

This was how we imposed lasting change in Germany and Japan. The lack of these elements in Iraq and Afghanistan are why they will revert to traditional modes of government when our troops leave. Bush's lack of leadership and historical knowledge combined with traditional State Department backstabbing are why our trillion-dollar investment in those two countries will result in two countries that are only marginally less hostile to us than they were when we initially invaded. This is why GWB is a less capable executive than his father, who presided over two wars - Just Cause and Desert Storm - at minimal cost in men and money (and even managed to get $60b from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Japan to cover Desert Storm expenses). GWB got minimal support from allies after devastating attacks on American soil, and managed to spend $1.2T in two wars that are ongoing a decade after he started the first one.

8 posted on 03/26/2011 10:14:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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This Libya coalition between the republican NeoCons and democrat liberal interventionists has everyone in a tizzy. Especially the antiwar pacifists who are now almost absolutely sure that Obama is a closet NeoCon.

And for Horowitz to call himself a Realist is absurdity.

9 posted on 03/26/2011 10:15:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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There was no time emergency that required Obomber to bomb before he sought Congressional permission.


12 posted on 03/26/2011 10:51:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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I’m just a pragmatic realist who notes that in fifteen hundred years Islamic cultures have a very poor track record in creating democracies and that the emerging Islamic movements in the Arab Middle East are without exception totalitarian, jihadist and also Jew-hating, women-hating and gay-hating.

We don't have to go back 1500 years. All we have to do is look at two Muslim countries in which we have invested $1.2T and put hundreds of thousands of GI's in-country. Iraq and Afghanistan.

13 posted on 03/26/2011 11:00:39 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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I do not think Islam is compatible with any sort of Freedom. However it is compatible with Theocratic Communism.
14 posted on 03/26/2011 11:06:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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From the article:

"The doctrine under which Hillary Clinton persuaded Obama to invade a sovereign country and thereby to disregard his Secretary of Defense (an actual pragmatist on Obama’s ship of state) is called “Responsibility to Protect.” It is the invention of NSC adviser Samantha Power and her patron George Soros. Soros describes the doctrine like this:

“If governments abuse the authority entrusted to them and citizens have no opportunity to correct such abuses, outside interference is justified. By specifying that sovereignty is based on the people, the international community can penetrate nation-states’ borders to protect the rights of citizens.”

So Hillary, Samantha Power and Susan Rice, with Soros blessing, invade Libya while Obama votes present.

So next we 'protect' the Palestinians in Gaza from big bad Israel and invade Israel. Check. Next it's on to those right wingers here in our own country. Check. . . Well, we need to protect D.C. don't we?

As Savage said, quoting Isaiah 3:1-15: "A babe is their master and women rule over them. ..."

15 posted on 03/26/2011 11:08:07 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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a must read - soros connection clearly explained


22 posted on 03/26/2011 12:08:31 PM PDT by DTA
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"I endorse Barack Obama" - Andrew Sullivan, Nov 2008

That's all I needed to know.

33 posted on 03/26/2011 2:50:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama Hides While People Die! The UN is not Congress, POTUS.)
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First, I am not against people whose religion is Islam. I’m just a pragmatic realist who notes that in fifteen hundred years Islamic cultures have a very poor track record in creating democracies and that the emerging Islamic movements in the Arab Middle East are without exception totalitarian, jihadist and also Jew-hating, women-hating and gay-hating.

That "poor track record," is it just a coincidence or something? Because if it isn't -- if it's related to the fundamental beliefs of Islam -- you might want to think about being against those people after all. Without them, the religion is meaningless. It has meaning, and evil meaning, and evil when practiced (poor track record) because those "people whose religion is Islam" practice it. If they are not blameworthy, who or what is?

36 posted on 03/26/2011 3:11:05 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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“It looks as if David Horowitz has left the neocons and become an anti-Islam nationalist; …. he looks at the eruption in the Middle East and wants the dictators back.”

Actually, not Horowitz's position but isn't there evidence that a dictator is more or less needed in Muslim states to keep order, especially given a 'tribe' culture? We do have an experiment going on in Iraq but time will tell if that works and although it may, history says no. And, at what cost to us (blood and treasure)?

It seems like Muslims within a tribal culture are somewhat uncivilized and we need to be somewhat uncivilized to deal with them directly or not deal with them at all.

The world has been dealing with the Muslim problem for thousands of years with no progress to date.

37 posted on 03/26/2011 3:22:03 PM PDT by unique
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which is being led (sort of) by the dithering amateur in the White House

That about sums up our predicament.

40 posted on 03/26/2011 5:12:13 PM PDT by garbanzo (You better hold on; This one's about to get bumpy.)
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To: KeyLargo

Andrew Sullivan’s mind has seen better days. He should reserve the use of his big mouth for the bedroom.


43 posted on 03/26/2011 8:41:50 PM PDT by ratsreek
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