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To: KeyLargo
If Obama really means to protect the rights of Libyans he would have to occupy the country for a decade, rewrite its constitution, re-educate its population and institute a democratic educational system. Is that what Sullivan really wants – or has he just not thought this through?

This was how we imposed lasting change in Germany and Japan. The lack of these elements in Iraq and Afghanistan are why they will revert to traditional modes of government when our troops leave. Bush's lack of leadership and historical knowledge combined with traditional State Department backstabbing are why our trillion-dollar investment in those two countries will result in two countries that are only marginally less hostile to us than they were when we initially invaded. This is why GWB is a less capable executive than his father, who presided over two wars - Just Cause and Desert Storm - at minimal cost in men and money (and even managed to get $60b from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Japan to cover Desert Storm expenses). GWB got minimal support from allies after devastating attacks on American soil, and managed to spend $1.2T in two wars that are ongoing a decade after he started the first one.

8 posted on 03/26/2011 10:14:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Zhang Fei

This isnt about Libya. It goes well beyond the borders of that nation. Obama has taken power from the US and used it to help consolidate the path of Islam for its c a l i p h a t e.

Obama has taken America into a snare.


10 posted on 03/26/2011 10:18:13 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Zhang Fei

>This was how we imposed lasting change in Germany and Japan.

Right track but you arent going far enough.
Yes we defeated them but not only them, we utterly defeated every nation allied to them, insofar as was plausable, anywhere in the entire world.

You are speaking of a WORLD War, one that wiped out 100s of millions of people across the entire globe.

Iraq & Afghan may revert, not just because we leave, for the problem does not reside in the prior governments of those nations, but because Islam itself has not been crushed, and Islam itself, a pre medieval religion that has never been through its own centuries long Reformation is the real problem across the globe today.

To achieve what I believe your points to be, we would have to decimate the muslim populations of most of Asia, all of the Middle East and the South Asian archipelago, including but not limited to, Indonesia and Malaysia, demolish their holy cities and sites and, in essence, either kill all that want to perpetrate this cult, or render that particular intent impotent.

Despite the current threat(s), we have never even declared a war, let alone mustered World Wide support for a total war such as this.
To the contrary, we coddle them, invite them into our country, and support them as in Hamas in Gaza, the muslim terrorists in Kosovo, and now the new Mid East rebellions.

thank you for your post.


34 posted on 03/26/2011 2:50:35 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Zhang Fei

Aitch got $ out of the ragheads because he acted in their interests (oil) as much as ours by undertaking those operations.

Afghanistan and Iraq are about something else altogether. The Arabs figure it’s our problem alone. I do agree that the notion we’d ever get any money out of Iraq from their oil or good deals on oil was probably not realistic, meaning overly optimistic. Gratitude and generosity are not earmarks of Arab culture.


44 posted on 03/26/2011 8:50:27 PM PDT by ratsreek
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