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Good bye, Kyoto
The American Thinker ^ | S. Fred Singer

Posted on 03/13/2011 4:12:46 AM PDT by Scanian

The 1997 Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012, after surviving 15 years, mostly spent on life support. It reached its peak in Bali in 2007 at the annual UN gabfest, had a sudden unexpected collapse in Copenhagen in 2009, and has been in a coma since.

Kyoto had its real beginning at the 1992 Global Climate Summit in Rio de Janeiro. I missed that great party but George Bush the elder went and signed up for the United States. The language of the Global Climate Treaty, the Framework Convention on Climate Change (FCCC), was vague enough to not be completely objectionable -- although we should have known better than to let the camel's nose enter the tent. It has prejudiced the subsequent discussion by focusing only on anthropogenic global warming (AGW).

The 1997 Protocol, negotiated in Kyoto, Japan, tried to put teeth into the FCCC. And its bite was strong enough so that the United States never ratified it -- even during the Clinton-Gore years in the White House.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1997kyotoprotocol; agw; capandtrade; climatechange; climategate; expiration; globalclimatetreaty; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; hidethedecline; hockeystick; mikestrick

1 posted on 03/13/2011 4:12:55 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I thought this was going to be another earthquake/tsunami thread.


2 posted on 03/13/2011 4:20:18 AM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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To: Scanian

The Bali meeting could have been made into a Marx Brothers movie. They had hundreds of private jets flying into Bali and there wasn’t enough parking so they made them take off after an hour and actually park at other islands in the region. Toss in the five-star hotel deals, the booze, the private parties that you had to have a pass for, and this turned into some comic opera that made no sense. I suspect at the conclusion of that meeting...around ten percent of the attendees woke up and realized the comic nature of these meetings.


3 posted on 03/13/2011 4:34:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: PLMerite

Actually, to repeat a comment I just made on another thread:

“You wanna bet that some green freak will try to blame the quake on the US as some sort of delayed reaction to the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, perhaps?

“They’ll say something like, ‘The explosions set off a slow but inevitable tectonic chain reaction which eventually led to the events of the past week.’”

I love anticipating liberal idiocies.


4 posted on 03/13/2011 4:47:18 AM PDT by Scanian (i)
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To: Scanian
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5 posted on 03/13/2011 4:48:06 AM PDT by flat
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To: Scanian

Well it won’t matter after 2012 anyway.


6 posted on 03/13/2011 4:54:35 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Scanian

The New World Order leaders hold finding a substitute for war that unifies and subjugates the people under them as their #1 priority.

Right now they are abandoning anthropogenic global warming in favor of terrorism. It’s much more like war, so they said, “Let’s call it ‘The War On Terrorism’ and don’t tell them we are (or create) the terrorists.


7 posted on 03/13/2011 5:27:12 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Only if they nominate any of the re-run clowns, then captain zero has a clear shot. After how the last election turned out, there might not even be a 2012.


8 posted on 03/13/2011 5:31:19 AM PDT by barb-tex (Oh Well, I don't actually KNOW he is a Muzzie!)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 03/13/2011 5:47:37 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips)
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To: Scanian

so, now can we get back the CFC asthma inhalers that actually worked?


10 posted on 03/13/2011 8:03:38 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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Thanks Scanian.
The 1997 Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012, after surviving 15 years, mostly spent on life support. It reached its peak in Bali in 2007 at the annual UN gabfest, had a sudden unexpected collapse in Copenhagen in 2009, and has been in a coma since.
Gosh, it's almost as if it was always about surrender of sovereignty and undermining the United States. That must be why Obama tried to get it passed and strengthened, but was told to stuff it by China and India -- arch-enemies who banded together to oppose it.


11 posted on 03/13/2011 11:43:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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12 posted on 03/13/2011 8:29:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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so, now can we get back the CFC asthma inhalers that actually worked?

Wrong hoax. That one is the one where if you use refrigerants that are in the public domain because DuPont's patents have expired, you'll blow a hole in the ozone. Only the new ones, still under DuPont's control can save life on earth. Especially puppies.

13 posted on 03/13/2011 8:35:31 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PLMerite
I thought this was going to be another earthquake/tsunami thread.

Me, too.

14 posted on 03/13/2011 9:38:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Still Thinking
"so, now can we get back the CFC asthma inhalers that actually worked?"

Wrong hoax. That one is the one where if you use refrigerants that are in the public domain because DuPont's patents have expired, you'll blow a hole in the ozone. Only the new ones, still under DuPont's control can save life on earth. Especially puppies.


Actually it was the same hoax for the same reason. Propellants that had worked remarkably well in asthma inhalers since the 1950's were banned and replaced by propellants that were never properly tested.

While the new HFA propellants work for some, they cause severe asthma attacks in some, don't work for some, don't work nearly as well for many.

In order to work the new propellants ironically require asthma patients to take very deep breaths. In addition the propellants are prone to clogging, even with meticulous care. CFC inhalers were very sturdy; you could toss an emergency inhaler in your car glove compartment or desk drawer and leave it there for years. When you needed it it sill worked.

Considerable sums of money were spent to help the Lung Association 'educate' patients. Patients who had had well controlled asthma for years and had problems with the new inhalers were informed that they just didn't know what they were doing.

Junk Science Kills

HFA MDI's poorly tested

...the original patents ran out on the old inhaler...
15 posted on 03/14/2011 6:28:53 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj
No, CFC's weren't banned because of global warming but because of fears of ozone depletion. It was going on back in the late 80's and early 90's long before anyone was trying to do anything concrete about globull warming.

Since then, they "discovered" that refrigerants are supposedly ALSO implicated in global warming, so even the ones useless enough to have survived the previous hoax are still treated like live Ebola virus.

16 posted on 03/14/2011 10:46:27 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Apologies, my major error!

CFC’s were banned in the Montreal protocol hoax which had merged in my memory with the Kyoto protocol. Possibly because, as you wrote, it was ‘discovered’ that those chemicals that ‘depleted’ the ozone hole also were implicated in globull warming, but also because the replacement HFA asthma inhalers propellants have since been implicated in globull warming.


17 posted on 03/14/2011 12:16:32 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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