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Health care reform confuses, divides small businesses
St. Louis Post Dispatch ^ | 3/6/2011 | Steve Giegerich

Posted on 03/06/2011 5:00:13 AM PST by mmanager

It's been 26 years since Lew Prince paid the first premium to provide health insurance for the staff of his small business, Vintage Vinyl in the Delmar Loop.

Back then, Prince sought to honor his father — a New Jersey labor organizer — by meeting the needs of a valued employee awaiting the delivery of his first child.

"Everyone should have health care in a civilized country," Prince says.

That principle has guided Prince every year since, even as his annual payout for health insurance to cover his 17 employees has ballooned to $60,000.

Soon — as national health care reform legislation moves closer to implementation — thousands of other small-business owners here and nationally will have to follow Prince's lead to comply with federal mandates.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communisim; healthcare; obamacare
The reality is setting in.
1 posted on 03/06/2011 5:00:17 AM PST by mmanager
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To: mmanager
"Everyone should have health care in a civilized country," Prince says.

I stopped right there. Sounds like an Obamacare/union propaganda piece to me.

2 posted on 03/06/2011 5:09:04 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: mmanager

Economy, Health Care Among Topics for Walz’(D-Mn) Visit
http://mankatofreepress.com/local/x535472508/Economy-health-care-among-topics-for-Walz-visit
Congressman speaks at Angie’s Kettle Corn

State Rep. Randy Demmer — Walz’s Republican opponent — has criticized the incumbent’s support for health care reform and the uncertainty the landmark legislation has caused for employers. And that legislation was part of the conversation between the Bastians and Walz.

Angie Bastian said the company’s human resources manager is having trouble finding detailed information about how the reform, which will mostly take affect in 2014, will impact their business.

“We’re looking for information,” she said. “... It would be helpful to have that so we can plan.”

Walz concurred, saying federal agencies need to finalize the rules surrounding the reform bill so that businesses of all sizes will know what will be expected of them and what sorts of tax credits they will receive. Ultimately, he said most small businesses will like what they see.

“The more people find out what’s in there, the happier they are,” he said.


3 posted on 03/06/2011 5:13:45 AM PST by Son House (Finally, people lie because they feel if they tell the truth they wonÂ’t get what they want.)
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To: mmanager
"Everyone should have health care in a civilized country," Prince says.

What he really meant to say is "Everyone should have health care in a civilized country, so let's get the govmint to do it, they gots plenty of money."

There fixed.

4 posted on 03/06/2011 5:16:36 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (It's the end of the world as we know it. And I feel fine. - R.E.M.)
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To: Son House

That was September 28, 2010, the ‘Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act’
was signed into law March 23, 2010.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 5:18:05 AM PST by Son House (Finally, people lie because they feel if they tell the truth they wonÂ’t get what they want.)
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To: mmanager

The confusion starts with the Executive Branch...which thinks they have a legitimate bill....


6 posted on 03/06/2011 5:23:08 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: mmanager
“”Everyone should have health care in a civilized country” said Prince who is a supporter of national health care reform.”

Everyone should have freedom in a civilized country Mr. Prince, and that includes the freedom to conduct business privately and to choose whether or not you want to buy something.

In a civilized country everyone should have food. Does that mean that we should all eat the same food, as dictated by the government? Does that mean that it is unfair if I eat hamburger and someone else spends the money they earn to buy and eat filet, and that the government should then step in and essentially nationalize the food industry?

7 posted on 03/06/2011 5:23:48 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: mmanager
THREE DOCS
8 posted on 03/06/2011 5:23:51 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: mmanager

Wait a minute! A Federal Judge in Florida struck Obomacare down. As far as it stands right now this law is null and void. No one should be implementing it unless they’re idiotic enough too.


9 posted on 03/06/2011 5:26:32 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: VRW Conspirator

**Everyone** does have the opportunity to have health insurance
or to get health care.

We don’t discriminate or turn people away.

YOU NEED TO HAVE PRIORITIES. no Disneyworld every year. NO fancy car.
NO golf every weekend.

Yes, you have to be responsible and have a job. And have it as a priority.

With Obamacare, I’m going to be paying for people who eat 2 pizzas a day.
who drink. who smoke. who don’t budget. who blow their money on lottery
tickets. who blow their money on drugs. who won’t work.
Wait.... there’s no way i’m subsidizing ANY able bodied person who won’t get
up off the couch.

watch for the civil war


10 posted on 03/06/2011 5:30:42 AM PST by preamble
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To: sirchtruth
Wait a minute! A Federal Judge in Florida struck Obomacare down. As far as it stands right now this law is null and void. No one should be implementing it unless they’re idiotic enough too.

Yeah, but another "judge" decide it's all Constitutional because mental activity = action, therefore, they can't be punishing folks for the inaction of not buying health-care - the mental activity of making the decision to not act is the same as action.

I wonder if the twit considered that someone may have made the decision to actually buy healthcare, but just hasn't gotten around to it yet. Wouldn't' the mental decision to do it count as having fulfilled the requirement and the inaction regarding actually buying it be negated by the action of the decision?

11 posted on 03/06/2011 5:54:03 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: mmanager

Ballooned to 60K? That is only 3500 per employee. You cannot buy squat for 3500 an employee.


12 posted on 03/06/2011 6:00:25 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: trebb

Did you use to write for Abbott and Costello?


13 posted on 03/06/2011 6:01:41 AM PST by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: mmanager

The whole purpose of ObamaCare is to destroy health care access, leaving only single payer as the only “option.” (Except of course for the criminals in Washington, who have exempted themselves).

Proof? Obama brags about this to his fellow letist d-bags.


14 posted on 03/06/2011 6:14:34 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: VRW Conspirator

Health care, health CARE is what the man said.

No one should have to go without seeing a doctor. A medical issue should not bankrupt a person.

Health care INSURANCE is a different matter. Why not just get catastrophic and pay for everyday stuff?


15 posted on 03/06/2011 6:50:10 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Raycpa

That’s why getting paid in cash is the new norm.


16 posted on 03/06/2011 8:11:27 AM PST by max americana
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17 posted on 03/06/2011 8:53:34 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Raycpa

Not to mention his business is Vintage Vinyl! He is lucky if he can make enough money selling old records to pay the rent, let alone pay employees minimum wage and unemployment insurance. Health care, no way. I used to look up used record stores in the yellow pages and the internet when visiting strange cities. Most of them were empty storefronts by the time I found the addresses.


18 posted on 03/06/2011 9:15:19 AM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: rocksblues
Did you use to write for Abbott and Costello?

Why do you ask? I was merely pointing out the inanity of what liberals will come up with - the judge did in fact come up with a ruling based on mental decisions being actions and therefore, the government could punish folks for not buying health-care. She used that as a basis to declare Obamacare Constitutional.

19 posted on 03/06/2011 9:45:05 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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